I've tried Salvia quite a few times but just recently, over the last few weeks. Quick rundown, a friend and I tried some, we did it wrong, at an annoying friend's house, didn't think it would matter much but realized why this stuff hasn't hit mainstream harder, cause ppl don't know how to shut up for 5 min's, our friend after telling him about it said" Well let's turn on the lights and get tore up", retard, still got a nice 2, slurred speach, felt a pulling, distances were thrown off, tried laying back, felt it come then start to fade, started getting mad, felt insulted in a weird way, said screw it and went outside, outside was nice, had just rained. Ordered more, I felt something but my friends didn't, they pretty much gave up on it, took 2 weeks, supposedly it got lost, had to have it reshipped, got it , tried it with a couple of friends, wasn't as strong as the first time, tried it a few odd times with friends, then tried to make extract, took longer to dry than I thought, smoked my last joint hours before, got tired, figured it would finish drying over night, had already tried up to 8 or 9 bowls at a time, holding them deep and long, had even bought a butane lighter just for it, it was sometime between 3:30 and 4 am, thought I would smoke a bowl before I went to bed, just one for a mild buzz, had already given up all hope of getting anything past a 2 from the leaf, I was way wrong, took 2 hits and as soon as the 2nd was inhaled I had the stongest 3 I've had to date, almost screamed but no one to scream for, phreaked out a bit at first but calmed down after a few min's. I waited a few days to try the extract, I've read lot's of trip reports on this stuff, know the levels, and kept wondering why it seems like alot of ppl say they try it on like a Friday then not again till maybe the next week later on. Kinda see now, it's like waiting for the perfect time. I've also seen that amount means nothing. So far only 2 of my friends have hit level 3 and 4 friends have still only stayed at 2, but they haven't tried it as much, about 2-4 times each. I think it takes rougly 5 tries for most ppl, and a given up feeling, and time to relax at least 10 min's before trying in ABSOLUTE SILENCE or as near as you can get, DO NOT ANTICIPATE, don't look for it to happen just toke, not in a joint, very weak that way, and relax. The other 2 that have hit level 3 did so only after smoking almost all and giving up then just smoking it later to finish it off. IT isn't crystal clear, at least three isn't, maybe 4 and 5, it's like seeing 2 diff't worlds with 2 sets of eyes. Spposedly 4 and 5 are much much better. I've hit 3 about 8 times now, about 5 times felt a varying/sinking, twisting, rolling feeling, and it's like when I get to the point where I've almost completely turned or flipped, I phreak and feel like this is it, I do get a little scared, it's like at that point your mind is bending and you feel everything start to become more real, but I get this feeling in me, like do you believe? It's weird, hard to describe, I tried the extract in very small amounts, leaving it as a powder, not soaking back into the leaf, so I can judge my amounts better, still haven't taken a dose over what would roughly be 3x. Sometimes I get hot, a few times stingy sweaty hot, except for my first level 3, during which I maintained a comfortable cool feeling during and after, and both times last night I had a cool feeling but only the second time the turning feeling, but had a killer headache last night I've been doing my best just to relax for up to 20 and 30 min's at a time and smoking just one bowl which I usually manage to empty in one hit and from just leaf I can manage a 3 everytime now. I need a bigger pipe or bong, going to try and get one very soon. This is the first hallucigon I've ever tried. I'm very curious, my other 2 friends have hit 3 and had the same turning feeling, I think after that it's 4. It sames like your brain has to build up a reverse tolerance, which is why I belive amount doesn't matter much, most may need a g of 10x the first time but I think that would just be to help break through, after which you should be able to do it in lower and smaller doses. But I'm just curious how real is 4 and 5, 3 is there but vague, I feel things, hear things and ppl, vaguely see people kinda like ghosts. So level 1 is mild, something diff't, 2 is stronger, a pull the differences are stonger, 3 at the end is the turn, is there a similar barrier between 4 and 5 or even 5 and 6? Mainly curious about trip reports from 4 5 and 6.