salvinoran a/c LD50?

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  1. fnord

    fnord Palladium Member

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    anyone have a refrence to teh highest know salvia dose?swim hates the stuff,puts his life in perspective and makes him feel horrible,yet he wants to do a medium sized extract,clean it up and makes shinny little crystals and do as large of a dose that would be safe.any help/idea?
     
  2. Buddah

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    1G of leaf/kg. It's not a realistic ld50, but it's there. :)
     
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    fnord Palladium Member

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    but what aboute pureish 90%+ salvianoren crystals? 50X is a goey substance so crystals are probly 200X so thats around 200 grams per 1 gram crystal(just gusseing on the leaf to crsytal ratio) so yes,if I am very self destructive(and he is)this could be realistic.swim want to do this as safe as posible.so any info befoer he embarks on an amnesia inducing voyage would be apreciated.
     
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    Yea and well if its 200x it would be .005/kg
     
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    Well first of all, the average sal-A content in leaves is 2.5mg per gram of leaf so that makes 1 gram of pure sal-A (1000 / 2.5) 400X. Which btw You should never smoke because it will probably make You pass out. You will 99.999999% of the time pass out before ODing on Salvinorin-A.

    Personally Buddah, I have never seen an official LD50 for Salvinorin-A. 1 gram of leaf per kg? what is 1 gram of leaf? as in normal leaf? I weigh 54kg, smoking the amount of salvinorin (54 * 2.5) 135mg of Salvinorin-A. I have heard of many people smoking around 100mg per dose (hard heads).

    However, this source states: http://thomas.munro.com/salvia.htm

    that the LD50 in mice is 358mg/kg. Rather than 2.5mg/kg like You states.
     
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    I said 1 gram not miligram so it would 54 grams for an overdose
     
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    You said 1G of leaf/kg, my friend. and as SWIM explained. leaf does not mean Salvinorin-A. So unless You clarifies what "leaf" is in terms of salvinorin A, I have no clue what you mean.

    And I have seen somebody smoke more than 54 grams. As in, I have seen somebody smoke half a gram of 100X (the equivalent of 1 full gram of 50X which is about the same Sal-A content of 54grams of leaf, a little less) and nothing happened to him, except he got a little high. But like I said, this person is a hard head, so it just doesn't affect him much at all. And this guy was also around 54kg btw.
     
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    Either swiy's friend didn't smoke it quite right, or he is one hell of a hardhead!
     
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    One hell of a hardhead indeed. I think that he is one of those 10% of people in which salvia doesn't affect them.
     
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