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Scared Im gonna fail....Probation screen!! help

Discussion in 'Drug testing discussion' started by Lost In This World, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. Lost In This World

    Lost In This World Newbie

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    {Mod Edit - Threads & Original Post Merged apologies for any confusion! Please do not ask the same question in more than one place]

    .If my friend smoked meth on friday and saturday. And had a probation urine screen on wednesday afternoon. What is the chance of passing.

    Thank you guys.
    My friend smoked the last bowl around 5pm on saturday.
    She prob used .5g between fri and sat
    She was dropped at 2pm on wednesday afternoon
    She did not use anything at all up to that drop.
    Prior to fri and sat she was clean for 4 days.
    We calculated her to have bout 90 hrs clean before test.
    She feels stupid and is very scared.

    Thank you much for the honesty and the truth is ur right I dont wanna feel like this. I remain scared and feeling pretty hopeless at this point. Test was taken last wednesday. But thank you guys for your replies to my post. Its not like I can sit down and talk to anyone about this. And I pray to God I dont go to jail.

    when giving urine for a screen can 10 hrs make or break you. In reference to meth showing on a urine screen for probation.

    my friend is a fukin stressed mess. She smoked .5 of meth on a fri and sat and had an unexpected drop from her PO on wed she smoked the last bowl at 5pm on sat and dropped 2pm on wed. She calculated 91hrs being clean at the time of testing...anc she is sttrreeessssseed!

    No prior dirty UAs I have been on probation 4 months and that was my first UA I work full time Ive been in no trouble. Hense the reason for my stupidity assuming they had not been testing me so I didnt think they would at the 4 month appointmentment. Thinks she shouldnt think so much.

    Any ideas or devices sold or that can be made for girls that can be used for supervised urine screen.....thanks in advance for any suggestions.

    they wont turn the water on i was nervous pissin and asked they wont for i guess those reasons....but yeah Im real new to this and it seems like anything u try and drink may not work....but clean pee will if u can get that far..
     
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  2. Mick Mouse

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    It depends on a couple of different things!

    1. How much did you smoke?
    2. When did you quit on Saturday?
    3. How pure was the shit that you smoked?
    4. What kind of urine screen is the probation doing?
    5. What time is the probation appointment on Wednesday?

    If I were you, I would be very nervous. About the only thing that you can do at this point is put off the appointment on Wednesday for as long as possible, to give your system as much time to clean out as possible. If you could put off the appointment until Thursday, your chances of passing would be much greater!

    While drinking a lot of water really won't help all that much, you might pound a couple of quarts shortly before you go into the appointment. That way, the sample will be diluted. It is not a "pass" but it might get you an extra day or two to clean out.

    Hopefully, you will come in under the cut-off level and will be OK. Rule of thumb is 5 to 7 days between last usage and U.A. for people who are not regular users or for those who don't use huge amounts at one sitting. For those individuals, 10 to 14 days is better.

    Good luck, and keep us posted on how things work out!

    In this post, "you" obviously refers to your friend, and not you!
     
  3. Mr. Jiki

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    Methamphetamine doesn't usually hang around in the body for all that long 2-3 days is about the time it is generally detectable for. Of course depending on the time of the last use and the time of the test, they (the lab) might be able to quantitate the tail end of the last meth use...but that all depends on how much was used during the weekend to begin with.

    During normal conditions up to 43% of a dose is eliminated unchanged in the 24 hour urine, with about 4-7% as amphetamine (Beckett and Rowland, 1965). So your friend will have eliminated a little under half by Sunday and probably the majority of it by Tuesday (today). However, since Methamphetamine metabolizes into Amphetamine, depending on the dose, this sample could test positive for Amphetamine. Good luck tomorrow and let us know how your friend did.

    A.H. Beckett and M. Rowland. Urinary excretion kinetics of methylamphetamine in man. J. Pharm. Pharmac. 17:109S-114S, 1965.
     
  4. Mick Mouse

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    With that small of an amount used, you should be fine. Being scared is fine, but don't feel stupid. Take this as a learning experience and consider...Do you like the way you feel? Then why would you deliberately want to feel that way again?

    If you know you have a U.A. coming up, yet you continue to use, you have a problem. No sugar-coating and all bullshit aside! My personal opinion is that meth is an extremely stupid drug to use. It makes people do extremely stupid things, like doing dope when they know they have a U.A. in their future. I know, because I was addicted to meth for years and I did the exact same thing you just did! For me, there was no way to use meth responsibly, so I cannot use it at all. That sucks too, because I really liked it!

    Mr. Jiki makes some excellent points, and they are backed up by references, but note the word in italics-generally! Everybody is different when it comes to elimination of drugs from their system. We are hoping that you are one whose body eliminates metabolites quickly!

    As he said, keep us informed on what happens!
     
  5. Mick Mouse

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    Unless you have had multiple dirty U.A.'s, repeated violations, or something of this nature, the odds are good that you will not go to jail on your first dirty U.A.. Your P.O. will certainly add more restrictions and you will have to do classes and/or treatment programs, but you won't go to jail.

    The plain fact is that most jails are full and the current trend is to push people who are not currently in prison into treatment because of overcrowding and budget issues. I know people who have dropped dirty 4 and 5 times and are still out on the streets!

    Obviously, every parole/probation department is different, so I can't say with certainty that you are safe, but the odds are in your favor.

    Next time you reach for the pipe, think about how you feel right now, and ask yourself if it is worth it. For a lot of people, it doesn't matter. For me, it did!
     
  6. Reuq

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    Re: can 10hrs make a diffence?

    if the drug is constantly being eliminated from your system, then in theory it could pass the cut off point in 10 hours... chances are slim though.
     
  7. Phenoxide

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    Re: can 10hrs make a diffence?

    Yes ten hours can make a difference. Ten hours is just about the mean expected half-life for methamphetamine use, so you'd expect the drug concentration in urine to be roughly half of what it was ten hours earlier assuming normal rates of urine formation/excretion.

    That could be the difference between being above or below the threshold of detection depending on the extent of drug use, time passed and individual metabolic activity. With heavy use the drug is likely to be detectable for at least 2-3 days so there's no guarantee that a ten hour delay will necessarily be long enough to bring the drug down to undetectable levels.
     
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    Re: Supervised Drug Tests-Any Suggestions

    I don't know that anything is sold for women, but i do know it is much easier for women to beat a hot UA than men.

    The reason being, you put the bottle in your (you know what) cover the bottle with foil or thin plastic like Saran Wrap. The urine that is in your you know what, will get to body temperature. When your sitting on the pot, you poke a hole in the covering of the bottle, and out comes the urine. A friend of mine has been doing this for over 5 years, and has never got busted. The women supervisors don't seem to observe you very good. Tell then to turn on the water, then make you move. You just need a small bottle, a foil cover taped to the bottle, then poke the hole when the observer is turning on the water. The temperature will be within range and the urine (I hope) will be clean.

    There you have it. My girl who is a friend gets away with it every time.

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  9. Lost In This World

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    Is the detection time for meth in urine usually 2-3 days or 3-5 days and not taking in account for individual metabolism..Has anyone had hands on experience with the amount of days. Im sorry if I am being annoying here. Just trying to find out.
     
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    I went in for a UA for probation months ago and couldn't urinate. I got sick from drinking too much water. I was not actually concerned about failing the test because I had been off any illegal drug for months. I was, however, scared because if I didn't procure urine, I was told that I would be in violation of probation.

    So, after I got sick (threw up), I asked my officer if I could come back the next day. He was lenient and said I had three days to come back.

    Not all officers will be that cool but if you really need to buy more time you may want to "be sick" and ask for the extra days. Worst that can happen is the officer can say no and you end up giving the UA anyway.

    As for the chances of a dirty urine, you are right on the cusp of what I would consider detectable. Gas stations and pharmacies around where I live sell at home test kits. I suggest testing yourself ahead of time so at least you don't have to suffer the suspense.
     
  11. Lost In This World

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    PS.....Thanks Catdaddy...:)
     
  12. Lost In This World

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    well it has been 15 going on 16 days since my friends UA and no word....so hoping alls well!!!!

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    well it has been 15 going on 16 days since my friends UA and no word....so hoping alls well!!!!

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    well it has been 15 going on 16 days since my friends UA and no word....so hoping alls well!!!!
     
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    I am pretty sure by now your friend would have heard something if there was a problem. I am glad it went okay!
     
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    Sure hope so.....BIG THANKS...LUV....AND a sigh of relief ... Really appreciate all u guys for your posts!
     
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    i know this is an old thread.... but i'm wondering why no one suggested that your friend say she had a cold and took cold meds. w/o having researched it specifically, i'm pretty sure that most any otc decongestant would test false post for meth.... anyone agree/disagree?
     
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    FWIW I read that an acidic bladder promotes meth excretion. I do not know the mechanism but apparently consuming basifying materials like Tums helps retain meth & acidic stuff like OJ or tomatoes helps get rid of meth. Once I decide to come down I start drinking OJ to seal the deal. Don't know if it actually does anything meaningful.
     
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    Probation urine screens

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    I have a question relating to a urine screen for probation if my puppy has been clean for 24-48 hrs prior to the screen but also purchases a cleaning or detox pill either or. Would it help his chances of passing because my puppy will go the vet this week?? Any info on cleansing products would be great just no time to order online has to be locally!!!! Thanks ! Hope to hear back from ya!!
     
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    I would not concentrate on Advertised Toxic Cleaning Supplies. The best thing to really do, is to ride a bike or go for runs (until you sweat like a pig) for a couple of days. Dress warmer that you usually would.

    Then drink at least 64oz. of water a day until the test. Drink some cranberry juice, it is a good diuretic. However, I have read that if a table spoon of baking soda is taken maybe 3 hours until the test, and the theory behind it is it changes the urine's pH a notch or two. Many of these first screen UA devices can be manipulated. The baking soda idea is one I read on-line, and sounded somewhat valid. PH is important. Personally, I did it, but can not say for certain, it had an effect or not on the urine testing devices.

    However, the best thing to do is to work out in a sweat (to sweat it out, you'd be surprised how many chemicals exit our body's this way, (common Biologic knowledge). Then drink at least 64oz of water and cranberry juice a day, before the test. Take a couple of B-complex a couple hours before for a yellow color in the UA sample. A good 4 days should have passed. Creatinine, no matter how much one drinks, stays very consistent. Thus, if one flushes and does not add water to the sample, the creatine level will remain constant, thus they won't get you for a dilute. And if so, just tell them: "I've been working out a lot, and drinking a lot of water. I always drink a lot of water before a UA, so I can pee! Idiot!, no don't say the latter, LOL.

    I did this and was clean as a whistle. Flushing and using the bodies metabolic functions correctly flushes the toxics out naturally and efficiently. The Cat smoked very much before his test. Last smoke Sunday, UA was on Thursday at 12:30 PM.

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  19. Lost In This World

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    Are you saying they are entirely ineffective ???

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    Thanks you guys!!!! Im sure everything will be ok!!! I just wanted to take an extra measure to ensure passing!!!
     
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    I can't say that, all I can tell you is people who have used them say they are a waste of money. They still came up dirty and some came up clean. IMO, I'd say it would be a gamble, I tested UA's for 8 years, and we had very many strange UA's come in. However, we were a full service Toxicology lab, specializing in testing urinalysis analysis.

    Clean Kits and various other Toxic Cleansing products, can vary. If you think you can take their Product one day before a UA and come up clean, I would like to hear that very much. I'm just saying if you have a good 4 days to clean out, don't worry about it. Work out, sweat, and pee for 4 days, and you'll be clean. Most of those kits are rip offs, and some may have some valid technology at work. How are you going to tell. There are going to say it's guaranteed. Nothing is guaranteed in this life, believe me.

    salgoud