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Injecting - Scarred vs. Collapsed Veins? Help!

Discussion in 'Heroin' started by Holly021255, Oct 5, 2010.

  1. Holly021255

    Holly021255 Titanium Member

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    May 25, 2010
    from U.S.A.
    I have a vein care question, and she's wondering if you's ever had the same problem, and if they have any suggestions for SWIM.

    Basically, I have always had very small and hard-to-reach veins, and from the very start, she's pretty much had to rotate between 4 veins (2 in the crook of each arm). She's tried hitting the ones in her wrists/hands with a 31 gauge syringe, but 90% of the time it's a missed hit, or she gets a giant bruise from just trying to register. And she's NEVER been able to use the veins in her feet/legs. Recently, SWIM's been having trouble hitting the 4 veins she's always used, and even though she usually takes very good care of them (vitamin E oil, Neosporin, and arnica gel every night), her veins are beginning to scar heavily/possibly collapse. Her veins feel very bumpy when touched, almost like they're covered in Braille.

    SWIM attributes this to the fact that she's been unable to get to her NE for a few weeks, so she has to re-use each rig about 6-8 times, and also was really high a little while ago, and started digging around her arms with the needle (and she knows what a stupid idea this was :().

    Is there any way she can recover the use of these veins again, or will they collapse permanently? Before, all I had to do to get her veins back to perfect condition was just quit for a week, and let them recover, but she thinks that they're more damaged this time.
  2. Solinari

    Solinari Titanium Member

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    Oct 23, 2007
    from U.K.
    If they have definitely collapsed then they should recover once any thrombosis has subsided. Of course IV users can often get permanent vein collapse that may take months or years to recover and even then it's usually just a partial recovery.

    The thing described as 'braille' sounds like it's multiple thrombosis throughout the vein, this usually occurs at the site of injection but if it can be followed up throughout the vein then something is wrong and it could well be actual scar tissue that may have formed at the natural valves found upstream. This only really happens if far too much acid is being used which i suspect is not an issue here.

    I'm sure we already know this but get some fresh spikes, these reused needles are causing this damage. When a needle is used repeatedly it forms a barb that catches the tissue and causes the scarring, it's like a tiny hook that rips the tissue to bits at a microscopic level, even if we can't see the barb it will still be there. My fiend used to run the tip across his fingernail to see the extent of the barb and then use his teeth to try and get rid of it, this was when there were no exchanges, i suppose it was better than nothing.
  3. Spucky

    Spucky Palladium Member

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    Feb 9, 2009
    from japan
    AW: Scarred vs. Collapsed Veins? Help!

    The Veins from the Raccoon are gone, there are only a few "new" ones,
    they are actually not new but they get now more Blood, so they become more visible!

    This new Veins are bad, they are too weak and get broken very quick!

    To support the healing:
    Heparin Creme/ Gel is even better with at least 120.000 Size
    Chestnut-Creme may support the healing also

    And like someone above already said: Use only new Needles,
    this wiill reduce the majority of the harm because swiny will need less injections
    because the Needle can slip inside of the Vein instead of break in!

    And do more breaks, otherwise swiny is broken too soon and can't enjoy many more years/ decades on the Needle! :s
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2010