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Shooting heroin while on methadone

Discussion in 'Heroin' started by Beltane, Jan 23, 2007.

  1. Beltane

    Beltane Palladium Member

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    Did a search for info on this and was really surprised not to find anything.

    Methadone is one of, if not the most popular detoxification/maintenance program for heroin addicts. I'm sure that often people on maintenance methadone programs still shoot H.

    SWIM has a friend on methadone who occasionally shoots dilaudid and says he needs more than he should to get off. Then in Trainspotting, Renton shoots H while on methadone and ODs. Looking for comments from people who can comment on the effects of shooting H while on maintenance methadone.

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    - Beltane
     
  2. wellhelm

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    While swim was on methadone he did shoot heroin. There was never any rush shooting heroin on methodone and the rush was swims favorite part. A slight increase in other effects in proportion to how much H swim used(as expected) but the combination mostly increased swims nods.
     
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  3. sweatloaf13

    sweatloaf13 Silver Member

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    SWIM was on 150mg of methadone a day and attempted to shoot dope several times with no effects at all...
     
  4. cz-one

    cz-one Silver Member

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    Isn't it that as methadone is a longer acting agonist than heroin it blocks the euphoric effects of it but that once the methadone has worn off you'd need a higher dose of it than before,as well as a double-addiction of both if done repeatedly,& from experience methadone is one bad mutha to come off!
     
  5. dietrich

    dietrich Newbie

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    SWIM would like to report that a methadone does make shooting dope pretty lame... is like putting ear plugs in. a double addiction IS a bad mutha to come off of!!! DO NOT let yourself get a double habit. (please excuse the caps!) but SWIM has done the withdrawel from both cold.... and it took almost a month to sleep normally again! not to mention the other nasty withdrawels.
     
  6. CrookedEye

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    When SWIM first started his methadone program, and was on 30-40mgs, and until about 80mgs a day, he could shoot heroin and instead of only a rush, he would get even more wasted, than either alone.. But, when his dose increased to near 70-80mgs, and eventually up to 100, he got no effect at all.. So, SWIM's conclusion is, that low doses of methadone (for addicts) can potentiate the high, but a maintenance dose of methadone, when combined with heroin, is nearly pointless..
     
  7. PunchThomas

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    WTF is a "double addiction?" As my friend Raynar Thul understands, f you're addicted to one opiate, you're addicted to all of them. A methadone addiction is no different than a heroin addiction, and taking any opiate will alleviate withdrawal symptoms when coming off any other opiate.
     
  8. prado t

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    Now I dont recomend doing this . Especially if you are on a stable dose and life is going well. There is a BIG chance that you could blow it all

    OK I know somebody who is on 15mls of methadone and does a point of H , I think .2g IV of course.

    It has got to the point that the 15mls of methadone holds this person for like maybe 4-5 hours before he/she starts yawning and eyes water . Not good ! This person then has to go and score a .2 g or point as we call it up here to help last him/herself the 24hours

    I was quite surprised how he/she says the point works while being on 15mls of MMT
     
  9. The.Snowin.Downer

    The.Snowin.Downer Newbie

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    A point is .1...hence why it is called a point, .2 would be two points...
     
  10. lloydsLSD

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    This isn't true is it? methadone withdrawal is not quite as bad as heroin withdrawal in terms of the severity of the withdrawal symptoms, but methadone withdrawal is a longer lasting misery than heroin. stuff like codeine withdrawals are less severe again so imo opiate addiction is not the same whatever you are addicted to.
     
  11. ratgirldjh

    ratgirldjh Titanium Member

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    this is for example - being on a daily dose of 40 methadone a day and also shooting enough heroin to overcome the blocking effect of the methadone and getting high.

    do this long enough and you will start to feel sick only on the methadone and will need the heroin also daily and not only that more and more will be needed to 'feel' the heroin and it gets worse and worse.

    my rat knew quite a few people with this problem when she was on methadone.

    also my rat wants to add that shooting heroin while on high doses of methadone is dangerous. the amount of heroin needed to get past the blocking action of methadone can be very close to od levels. she has had friends actually od when trying to get high from heroin while on large daily doses of methadone :( be careful.
     
  12. Spudz

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    AFOAF is on 30mg methadone daily, has been for several years and IV's oxycodone/hydromorphone/morphine at least a couple of times a week. The AFOAF says he gets a great rush but the duration of the buzz is fairly short. When opioids aren't available he just maintains on methadone. He says the methadone keeps things smooth between buzzes.

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