Sleap aid?

Discussion in 'Ethnobotanicals' started by Red_Baran, Jul 22, 2005.

  1. Red_Baran

    Red_Baran Silver Member

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    Feb 20, 2005
    from U.S.A.
    A good friend ofI had a really hard time sleeping at night, so she has been taking valium for the past few days, it works very well for her however valium is addictive, and she has been very addicted to things in the past, so i told her i would look up some natural ways to help her sleep.<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" />

    Soherb or comboof herbsyou guys recommend for sleep?

    alsoswim gave her the valium, and would feel really bad if she got addicted...
  2. Nature Boy

    Nature Boy Gold Member

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    May 10, 2005
    from ireland
    I'm no expert on sleep but beer or hash cakes always do the job for me.
  3. MrJim

    MrJim Gold Member

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    Apr 8, 2005
    Melatonin works well. It is also naturally occuring in the body, it regulates your sleep patterns.
  4. Chaote

    Chaote Newbie

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    Sep 15, 2004
    I used to smoke grasss to help me sleep but if you have to stop sleeping can become difficult
  5. cactus

    cactus Silver Member

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    Nov 24, 2004
    from Australia
    5-htp always sends me to bed (1.5 hours bafter eating) otherwise you could always go with valerium.
  6. sterling77

    sterling77 Iridium Member

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    Apr 21, 2005
    from denmark
    Valerian root is a great herb that will make you drowsy and put you to sleep without making you dependant.

    5-htp is a precursor to serotonin. When you take it levels of
    serotonin are increased, leading to increased melatonin levels which
    helps you sleep.

    Right now I'm using a combo of the two, which works very well
  7. BrugmansiaBrujo

    BrugmansiaBrujo Titanium Member

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    Apr 2, 2005
    Here is a really good one:

    Corydalis Yanhusuo, the active ingredient is THP, tetrahydropalmatine.

    You can find at chinese herbal places online, a product that is an
    extract of this plant with 80% THP content. This is what you
    want, along with a milligram scale, as it is very potent stuff.

    Wife has perenial insomnia, and she is able to sleep well within 30
    minutes of taking a gelcap that contains 50-75mg of this extract.
    I usually prepare the capsules with the extract in the bottom, then
    fill then up with powdered ashwaganda herb. She weighs 125 lbs.

    Myself, weight 220 lbs, I'll use the same for normal sleep inducement.

    If I'm on the comedown from AMT or other psychedelic stimulants, or
    BZP, or any other stimulant, and it is absolutely impossible for me to
    sleep, yet I must for some reason (like having to go to work the next
    day) then I'll take 100mg of the extract. This is enough to
    terminate the stimulation and induce a restfull sleep within 30-45
    minutes after swallowing the capsule.

    Neither of us notice any sort of "hangover" or residual effect the next
    morning. However, if one gets up in the middle of the night to
    piss,one is very unsteady on ones feet, and feels like one is on a high
    opiate dose.

    Now before all you opiate heads out there get any ideas of using this
    as a recreational opiate, forget about that idea. Unless you like
    to be high whilst sleeping, as you simply cannot stay awake long enough
    on this stuff to feel the opiate effects.

    We have noticed no slowing of respiration or heartrate while using this
    extract at the dosages described above. And even when I took
    250mg once to see if it had recreational potential, still now slowing
    of those functions. Just an overpowering feeling of wanting to
    laydown and go to sleep.

    I would not recommend using this herb every day for insomnia, as I
    cannot vouch for the safety of such a thing. But we've been using it on
    an occasional basis for 5 years now with no ill effects, taking it no
    more than 3 times a week.

    So it is an ally for you in the search for something to help insomnia.
  8. QGdoxl

    QGdoxl Gold Member

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    Dec 28, 2004
    44 y/o from Canada
    I like a 50/50 mix with weed and a 30x passion flower extract works wonders and takes about 3 mins to take effect. Make sure your close to your bedroom!

    I also hear the valerian root works quite well too. Or is you wanna be really stupid a few of those valiums and some beer! just kidding that is a very bad idea
  9. Fantasian

    Fantasian Gold Member

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    Sep 28, 2005
    31 y/o from U.K.
    enough ketamine will make her sleep right away ;) (this is a joke please dont do this)

    As previously mentioned melatonin in my book is they key. I have Personal experience with Melatonin and finds is very good at inducing a normal sleep pattern. Note however that you cannot make someone with a normal sleep pattern sleepier and more sedate by using it, it just returns to a sustained equilibrium of what one might call "normal"

    As for the other herbs and extracts people are talking about i'm not sure. I have had no experience with them. SWIM tends to find he is always wanting to be stimulated not depressed, his opiates that he has to take for pain tend to make him generally drowsy most of the time anyway.
  10. IHrtHalucingens

    IHrtHalucingens Palladium Member

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    Sep 24, 2005
    31 y/o
    I found some formula 303 in my medicine cabinet from years ago. It has 264mg of quad strength valerian root and 132mg of quad strangth passion flower. I am 6'4" 210lbs and have a pretty high natural tolerance to most substances, sadly enough. What is a normal dose for sedation? for inducing sleep? I just need a place to start. And a while back i read somewhere that passion plower extract was an MAOI, is this true? Should i worry about what i eat and taking these?