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Smoking - smoking Diphenhydramine

Discussion in 'Deliriant antihistamines' started by Abuse, Jun 21, 2009.

  1. Abuse

    Abuse Silver Member

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    swim has some of the generic Benadryll "mini-tabs". he crushed a few of them up and smoked em last night. his hallucinations came almost immediately from just 75mg smoked. is swim alone in smoking Diphenhydramine? swim has searched and googled and cannot find proof that Diphenhydramine cannot be smoke. quite the contrary there are a few erowid reports of others doing this. any personal experiences SWIMs?
     
  2. RaverHippie

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    My raver friend wouldn't want to tempt fate without knowing what harmful chemicals diphenhydramine would degrade too upon being exposed to such high temperatures as smoking would require.
     
  3. Bryan_J

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    A person would advise not smoking diphenhydramine. The only active ingredient needs to be absorbed into your body to take any effect, so eating it seems like the more logical choice. He's very skeptical about smoking it giving noticeable effects. Could that person please describe in detail these feelings and hallucinations? Were they auditory or visual? How did it burn? Was the taste bad?

    Also, many non-active ingredients go into making a pill, gelcap, or softgel, whatever it may be. A person imagines those ingredients weren't developed with combustion in mind.
     
  4. Abuse

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    swim felt the onset of smoking diphenhydramine as soon as he let the smoke out. swim smokes just powdered tablets...pure dip hcl. swim honestly swears by this method. effects are definatly felt. these hallucinations were visual as well as audible, these were true Diph hallucinations.
     
  5. Euthanatos93420

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    Can Swiy provide some more details?


    Method used to smoke (Pipe? Foil?, glass vapo? sprinkled on a joint/cigarette?)
    Taste?
    How did lungs feel? Was it smooth or difficult to keep in?
    How did the effects compare to swiys experience with oral ingestion if swiy has experience there?
    Duration?
     
  6. WaggyRock

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    that's nuts
     
  7. Abuse

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    Method Used: a bong with a screen
    Taste: terrible...like burned sugar
    Feeling: smoke was cool and didnt irritate the lungs. very smooth...no discomfort
    Efffects: the effects of smoking Diphenhydramine tablets are felt for only about 5 mins/per hit and feel like you have ingested about 300-400mg when you've only smoked 50mg. seems to quadruple the effects when smoked. very odd

    it's good for a quick buzz but not a lasting high. swim would only recommend it to those who like the Diphenhydramine high without the heavy body-load feeling that comes along with it.
     
  8. MasterG

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    Crushed up tabs are probably not too good to smoke. Just a recommendation, SWIM refrains from smoking pills, however this has me intrigued. Perhaps if SWIM can find some pure Diphenhydramine then he will try this, perhaps out of a bulb. Does anyone know if Diphenhydramine is water soluble, can it be attained in a purer form just by a simple CWE or is this just wishful thinking?

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    *this has SWIM intrigued
     
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  9. Bryan_J

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    Well last night a person crushed up 100mg of diphenhydramine into a nice powder, and packed it into his cone to smoke. Here's what he found..

    It was very hard to burn, it seemed to want to melt, not cherry. The smoke had a HORRIBLE taste, and did a number on his lungs. He pulled the whole bowl in one hit and held it in for a few seconds, after exhaling he got a slight buzz in his head but no real effects. Later in the night, he started getting a headache and eventually just went to bed.

    So, from A persons experiment, he concludes that smoking diph has no real effects.
     
  10. DPHer

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    DPH is water and alcohol soluble. Considering the amount of filler, even in mini tabs, it's certainly a bad idea to smoke the powder. Extracted DPH or a liquid preparation could be an option, but not with direct flame, which could damage the molecule... DPH does boil at a relatively low temperature.

    Swim thinks a cold water extract, not unlike that occasionally done with hydrocodone, could be an excellent option for increased DPH onset.
     
  11. Euthanatos93420

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    CWE for fillers? WHat temp does it boil at? Cuz alcohol boils low too.

    I'f you're gonna distill you need temps.
     
  12. RaverHippie

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    MSDS says
    "Appearance: white crystalline powder
    Boiling Point: Decomposes.
    Melting Point: 168°C (334.4°F)"

    This rules irrefutably that unknown byproducts are created when smoking pure diphenhydramine HCL. Be warned that no one has access to pure diphenhydramine HCL and therefore is putting their health in danger even further by smoking the inactive ingredients in whatever preparation SWIY comes upon. Be warned.
     
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  13. CoryInJapan

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    I think its funny that this is even being considered as a method of indigestion.

    I'll let all you SWIY's be the Ginny pigs:p.
     
  14. CoryInJapan

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    Been researching this for a bit and fond this.

    Delivery of diphenhydramine through an inhalation route



    So vaporizing it through a non water filtered would produce affects.
    So no smoking out of a bong will not work.

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    woops here is

    SOURCE: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6884408.html
     
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  15. RaverHippie

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    Yeah that would be a much safer, more manageable, way to ingest diphenhydramine.
     
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    wow, people try to smoke anything! All that extra shit in a the pill can't be good for you, but then again it can't be that bad either, if it's only for a quick experiment. Swim'll try it out, not tonight though, he's fresh out
     
  17. chrisdahl

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    ^^^Agree...People smoking nytol:laugh:desperado
     
  18. purplehaze147

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    Swim is going to vape 75mgs right now. He'll tell everyone the results in a few minutes.

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    The effects are a bit milder than swim expected. It feels like about 100-150mgs orally maybe a bit more... hes super tiered and sees things in the corners of his eyes. The vape was very harsh on his throat and tasted horrible.
     
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  19. RaverHippie

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    to that I say, Duh! :eek: :applause:

     
  20. RaverHippie

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    This post adds nothing to the discussion. when citing a source, it is typical to name the source, because an uncited source offers no testable evidence in support of a claim.

    Of course Benadryl contains Diphenhydramine. There is also the consumer product Dramamine which contains dimenhydrinate which you seems to have thought was relevant to the discussion which is another deliriant antihistamine.