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Smoking - smoking heroin : alternatives to tin foil

Discussion in 'Heroin' started by chadchadchad, Sep 19, 2008.

  1. chadchadchad

    chadchadchad Newbie

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    any type of pipe?
    or is teh foil method the best.
     
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  2. jon-q

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    Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

    Welcome swiychadchadchad,swims not 100% sure he understands your question but will try to answer.

    when trials were being done in holland back in the early 90's two different ways of smoking heroin were looked at,one involved the traditional running along a piece of tin foil and the other method involved heating the heroin on a small brass heating block.The results showed that the action of moving heroin along the tin foil(running)showed far greater levels of heroin,6-acetylmorphine and morphine were present in tested plasma samples.

    So putting it in simple terms the best way to smoke h is "chasing the dragon"

    source:journal of parmaceutical and biomedical analysis...
     
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  3. calmurphy17

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    Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

    swim dont see why not as H can be smoked in a joint,so if you put some tobacco in a pipe and sprinkled on some H i guess you could smoke away although i would imagine it to be quite wastefull and anyway theres no real reason to go about it in this way.....
     
  4. stephy171072

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    Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

    Dose SWIM mean out of a crack pipe? If so then yes it can be smoked through that and you don't even need to add tobacco to it, not with the glass pipes made out of bottles anyway. The high off it is a bit stronger than off the foil and is quite nice though can leave a nasty taste in your mouth. It is also more wastefull. But I would say worth the try, SWIM before she began to fix found it very good to smoke through a pipe when she was sick rather than off the foil.
     
  5. CandiGirl

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    Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

    That's gross though! Have always found that H contraindicates MJ. I have often wondered if maybe MJ maybe slight opioid antagonist as it creates in most of SWIMs friends a cross-combination of withdrawal and white death. And this would be consistant MJ users who smoke joints like cigarettes.

    RE mixing with tobacco alone, I wouldn't think that would be pleasant, I don't know about any other people on here, but I find cigarettes while using H cause hideous headaches and wild hiccups. Since I have stopped using H, my cigarette consumption has doubled.
     
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    Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

    Are we talking only about crack pipes? Ive been asked by many about my opinion about 'liquid enhalers' better known as meth pipes. Anyone had any experiences with those? Is using a crack pipe nasty tasting? SWIM always has preferred chasing the dragon or even better, going fishing when sterile equipment is readily available. :vibes:
     
  7. snapper

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    Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

    SWIM's favorite way of administration was vaporizing. SWIM used to smoke heroin in a crack pipe (or meth pipe with a stem and a glass bulb at the end with a hole). The key to preventing waste is to put in small amounts at a time and vaporize carefully so that it does not burn. Hold smoke in as long as possible deep in lungs before exhaling. Over time the timing becomes obvious (as long as the same dope is used). SWIM never really liked the foil method. Unless the dope is really good, you do not get the degree of a rush as from IV, but it's pretty good.
    Every once in a while, SWIM would heat the sides and the stem to get any residual heroin that congealed in those places. SWIM however would not want to smoke the shoepolish-looking stuff people use these days without extracting first. That stuff could be really hard on lungs depending on what kind of tar was used as cut. SWIM only got powder heroin back when SWIM had a habit a really long time ago.
    For the record, SWIM always enjoyed combining dope and mj...
     
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    Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

    SWIM agrees with this method 110% :applause:.Might SWIM add,keep moving the flame or rotating the pipe.The object is to vaporize not burn your goods.
     
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    Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

    From what SWIM has heard, the flame/pipe must be rotated so as not to burn the gear!!

    So what's best a meth pipe or a crack pipe??
     
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    Re: Can H be smoked out of a pipe

    SWIM prefers the meth pipe.the ones with the round bulb at the end.
     
  11. Who's Got The Crack?

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    Different ways to smoke heroin

    Swim would like to know more ways can you smoke h.
    such as a crack pipe mabye?
    Swim doesn't think they have steady enough hands to chase the dragon.
     
  12. Herbal Healer 019

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    Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

    smoking heroin in a joint, blunt, bong, bowl, crack pipe or anything that actually causes the heroin to combust (create smoke) would be wasting the heroin.

    The most effecient ways of smoking heroin would be methods of vaporizing the heroin rather than actually smoking it through either a home-made lightbulb vaporizor, off tinfoil (chasin the dragon), or in an electrical tobacco/herb vaporizer (the kinds with brand names in headshops & on the net)....
     
  13. Rightnow289

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    Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

    Anyway other than using foil if smoking heroin is a waste of money and time in SWIMs experience. SWIY will get used to it eventually. If not snort it like SWIM did.
     
  14. rhudson

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    Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

    A freebase pipe may be an effective way to smoke heroin which is safer (glass is chemically inert) and more cost effective than foil. Smoking heroin in a joint or cigarette is NOT advised as it is likely a complete waste of gear. Heroin needs to be heated without being exposed to direct flame or burning material. That said, if freebasing heroin was possible and good then SWIM thinks it would be common knowledge given all the crack users who also use smack. If SWIY tries, please report back to the forum.
     
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    Re: Different ways to smoke heroin


    Only snort it if it is snortable obviously... If you've got the brown don't bother (h3). It won't work.

    hijaQr added 0 Minutes and 49 Seconds later...

    What sort of gear does SWIM have?
     
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  16. rhudson

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    Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

    Good advice. And if he has white, smoking that is probably a waste without adding a buffer like caffeine powder.
     
  17. Who's Got The Crack?

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    Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

    Swim is getting some this weekend. He isn't quite sure yet what type it is, he has to talk to the dealer.
    Would freebasing heroin be as easy as freebasing cocaine?
     
  18. rhudson

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    Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

    In theory maybe but SWIM has never tried it. The only difference between foil and glass is the former conducts heat more readily but is less chemically inert (it could react with something in the H and this may be why on rare occasions people develop brain damage after smoking H; then again it could be by an adulterant that is only active when heated). I don't know if the glass conducts heat fast enough. It also might not dissipate the heat fast enough and hence remain hot too long and waste your stash, but since it works so well for crack-cocaine I imagine it would work for smokable forms of H. Meaning tar or brown (H3) but not heroin HCl (H4) which usually appears white but could be brown too.
     
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    Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

    Heroin needs to be heated not burnt so pipes just don't work well enough enough. Trust SWIM. Heroin number 3 is readily available in the UK and is snortable. Way swim used to do it
     
  20. Bodom

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    Re: Different ways to smoke heroin

    Does any swimmer have experience using a meth pipe?