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Snorting - Snorting MDMA, how much is too much?

Discussion in 'Ecstasy & MDMA' started by Synesthesiac, Oct 13, 2008.

  1. Synesthesiac

    Synesthesiac R.I.P. Palladium Member

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    I had a friend that has taken recently to sniffing his mdma instead of bombing it. swim never does this as he cant bare the strong chemical taste, but is a bit worried about his mate using this method all the time. He does have an on and off habit wth mdma, he'll go through phases of using mdma about three times a week, and due to this he has to snort quite a lot to get a decent buzz. Averagely he will snort 0.5g in a night, and always pure mdma, never pills. Which seems to me to be a hell of a lot to be snorting in one night.

    I'm sure that this has been discussed before, but what are the dangers he is in by doing this? I'm not sure how tollerant our lungs are to mdma, but I would have thought it puts a much higher strain on them than sniffing coke or other compounds. But then again this is only based on swims own painful experiences of doing this, swim assumed that the higher the pain the more damage was being caused, but this may not be strictly true.
     
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    Doesn't fully answer the question, but I has tried ~60mgs up the nose and found that to be quite plenty; comparable to a normal dose of 120mgs except more stimmy and less spectacular-- his friends did similar and ended up with black eyes somehow which he thought was weird. I'm not sure if insuffulating other substances can give people black eyes, but it seems to me like it'd be less healthy than snorting other things for that reason...

    on a more common knowledge note (not sure if this was part of the question), doing more than 120mgs a night has been shown likely to cause greater brain damage and tolerance. Doing it more than every two weeks has shown almost definitely to cause brain damage+tolerance, and any more than once a month has shown to very likely at least cause tolerance.
     
  3. p$2

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    swip$ prefers snortin' molly. 0.5g in 1 night is quite a lot. how much is he putting in each line? swip$ would not like to do more than 1/8g at once. the fact that said person is using 3 times a week is imo cause for concern, and would explain the tolerance.

    mind you, back in the days before pure mdma it was not unheard of for people to go through 4++ pills in one night... bear in mind four _good_ pills can equal 0.5g.
    swip$ does not feel that sniffing gives a more potent effect than eating, but does come on quicker.
     
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    Yeah, it is alot. He's quite strange with his use though, he'll do this for a month or so, then he'll stop for a couple of months completely. So its not really an addiction in the normal sense, he just goes through phases.

    And no, he doesn't do 0.5 in one go, I doubt anyone could bear that. He'll usually space it out into three/four lines. I've told him to stop snorting, and suggested he uses the plugging method instead, as I presume this would be safer. But, predictably, he didn't like this suggestion! Though I'm not sure if 0.5g up your rectum would be any safer than snorting. He's just lazy and cant bear the wait of an hour or so when swallowing, and he says he gets a dodgy gut when he swallows.
     
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    re plugging, can't say i blame him, swip$ tried once, burnin' ring-piece, never again, nasty.
    at least he's having a couple months off. seems a litle complusive. certainly mdma is not really to be taken more than every month or so, swip$ generally sticks to this rule [give-or-take o:) ]
    swip$ has had friends saying that snorting mdma is pointless as it only has an effect this way due to eventually running down the back of the throat, but is inclined to disbelive him. imo snorting molly is like snorting speed, mdma being after all an amphetamine.
     
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    I dont think thats why, surely the whole point of snorting is so it goes into the lungs and gets absorbed quicker? Yes a bit will stick in the nose and go sown your throat, but most goes straight into your lungs.

    So does anyone know the general risks of snorting your mdma instead of swallowing? I cant find any scientific publications on the health effects of this, presumably because its quite an uncommon administration method.
     
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    It doesn't go to your lungs, it's absorbed into the mucous membranes of your nose.
     
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    Correct.

    INcorrect.

    Well, i'm not really sure, but some must end up in your lungs, especially the small particles that travel down the centre of your nasal passage, also depending on how hard you sniff and how dry your mucous membrane is. It
    is where the air through your nose goes, after all. Anyone willing to guess a % of what this may be? Or reference a paper? The higher % probably is probably in your nose. God damn drips.
     
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    The amount that ends up in your lungs must be a negligible quantity. Nasal hair is a very good filter. (otherwise we'd be breathing dust everytime).
     
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    SWIM prefers insufflation due to the same reasons like You (stomache discomfort, long wait).
    But especially in clubs, he prefers to put some mdma crystals in his mouth and let them stay there until they dissolve completely (not the best taste but not worse than the pain caused by snorting). The onset with this method comes almost as fast as with insufflation.
     
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    I has never had the pleasure of snorting MDMA powder, but given half a chance would love to (either bomb or snort, preferably bomb) as swim can't get molly in swims area very easily. I has done alot of MDMA pills in swims younger years (early 90's) and the quality was excellant. Swim only snorted crushed up pills very occasionally as I felt it was a waste to do so. So I would only snort a pill after taking a pill orally early on in the night. I would only do so if the pills were good and plentiful.

    I found snorting good pills very sore on the nose hence the reason swim only did it on occasion. I think swiy's foaf is taking a hell of alot of powder and should be careful swiy's foaf doesn't end up with no inside of nasal passage.
     
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    Little fishy finds taking some orally followed by a line of the lovely crystally stuff is perfect. Come up starts after about 10 minutes and it hit's you nice and hard. It doesn't taste all that bad and little fishy and friends grew to love that 'feels like snorting glass shards' feeling! :)
     
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    Tried it once, never snorting anything again. Nasty feeling.

    MindNRA added 19 Minutes and 8 Seconds later...

    Correction, Fish tried it once, said he is not doing it again.
     
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    lol 0.5grams of mdma is 2 pills on the dot. two proper pills. not four..:joint:
     
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    There isnt 250 mg of mdma in any pills You could buy, assured.
    Max 120 mg i think, in stronger pills. So if you dont count the fillers, 500 mg are little more that 4 strong pills. But you end up snorting 480 mg of mdma and 320 of crap. That bad. Snort only mdma crystals. For SWIM insufflation come up fast than oral amministration, but its also weaker. Nothing is better than the strong come up of 1/2 proper mdma pills swallowed when they hit, in SWIM opinion.
     
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    From my experience, just take the mdma and drop it in a glass of water and stir then chug!!.....for swim this has been the MOST intense and euphoric come up and dont take long AT ALL.....10-15 mins MAX!!! and it hits soo smooth and evenly!!!


    altho more so then not swim caps it because he cannot stand the taste....


    soo I would REALLY suggest that to the OP's friend as apose to sniffing it I'swims'HO!!! I am certain that your friend will enjoy it even more this way!!! :thumbsup:
     
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    My cat is not a fan of snorting, Certinly not after bombing she felt that the feeling lasts much longer with a smoother comedown.
     
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    My pet hamster recently tried MDMA for the first time. He eyeballed a dose of ~200mg. After an hour of not feeling it. He took some advice and snorted another 200mg. My pet hamster only felt the final 200mg. He does not recommend this because he is told this is alot for a first time.
     
  19. Chug Chug Chug

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    After snorting a variety of the 2C substances, the discomfort from snorting MDMA seems like nothing.
    Although my cat would imagine it'd be very harmful to your nose, and may end up causing damage to it over time. In his opinion, the nasal experience isn't much better if even better than the oral experience.

    Also to comment on the addiction thing, just because he has phases of not doing it doesn't mean he's not really addicted. The fact he keeps going back to it and using it heavily should be a red flag.
    MDMA use should be rare, the amount he uses within a month from what you described seems very dangerous and reckless.

    Sorry if my cat misunderstood your thread, although he believes he understood it correctly.
    Remember to keep harm reduction in mind.