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Snorting Tramadol

Discussion in 'Tramadol' started by Creeping Death, Nov 3, 2005.

  1. Creeping Death

    Creeping Death Iridium Member

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    I got a hold of a few capsules of Tramadol Hexal. I've taken tramadol several times orally before, but i don't have many pills this time. So i thought i'd snort them instead, to make it more efficient.

    Basiclly, what i'm worried about are the risks of this alternative way to ingest. I heard that you can get siezures if you inject a sufficient dose of codine, so does the same apply for tramadol? And do i need to worry about it if im snorting?
     
  2. oggy

    oggy R.I.P. Silver Member

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    How much are you going to snort? I have 50mg caps and I might try the same. It doesn't do much fo me orally, I've taken up to 200mg's.
     
  3. Creeping Death

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    I was planning to snort 100 mg along with smoking some weed. You can always add more if it's not enough. But it's alot stronger when you snort than when you pop, so the best thing is to just snort little by little. Meh, i'll probably do it tomorrow instead.

    If you're gonna do it, you should take about half (or less) of what you take orally to start off with. Wait for it to kick in, and then take more if it's not enough.Edited by: Creeping Death
     
  4. Fantasian

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    let me know how it goes, ive been interested in snorting Tramadol Hydrochloride
     
  5. icecrew

    icecrew Newbie

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    Ive tried snorting it, my suggestion dont do it its the nastiest drip
    in the world! and it hurts like fuck to snort the crap and its bad a
    shell for ur nose will leave a hole in it size of a quater if u do it
    alot... PEACE
     
  6. Creeping Death

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    Eww, you're right. It took me a half hour to snort 100 mg (2 capsules). Burns a damn hole in your nose, and makes your throat taste like chemicals all night. The effect isnt at all better than taking it orally. Waste of pills.
     
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    jhurt6971 Newbie

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    you have to mix some filler to be able to handle, b12 500mcg' per pill eases the burn and the b12 helps it kick in well... according to my friend trammy-bear
     
  8. NeuroChi

    NeuroChi is not his mind Platinum Member & Advisor

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    I've heard the same, though I've never tried it. Apparently the worst burn there is. Probably akin to 2C-I or something of that nature.

    Interesting suggestion, is this safe though? Vitamin B12 is psychoactive after all.
     
  9. zerozerohero

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    Tramadol has an oral bioavailability of about 70%, it's unlikely that the bioavailability of tramadol when snorted comes anywhere close to that.
    I'm therefore not sure if snorting is interresting at all or not, and i'd tend to advise using it orally given the numerous reports of tramadol being extremely harsh on one's nose, not to mention that some of it will be inhaled and it's very likely one's lungs won't appreciate it at all.

    As requested in rep. comment: info is (as so often) from wikipedia (the english version).

    cheers
     
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    I am on tramadol 200mg sr, if snorting this would this get rid of the slow release and hit swim straight away, if not how can swim make this work quicker as I am now having 400-600mg sr at a time to feel something and get rid of the chronic pain
     
  11. dqbtc

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    From SWIM's experience, emptying the caps into cigarette papers (make sure you wrap it up and rip off any excess, I have vomited up papers before which is pretty unpleasant) and swallowing them that way with water is the fastest way to take tramadol.

    Don't snort it. It's pretty much pointless, and as you've figured out by now really painful.
     
  12. LoveNwar

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    My dog tried it once. No big rush or anything. But again, his brain associates snorting with cocaine so much that he probably was (somehow, deep in his subconscient) expecting the same feeling of happyness. Coke is coke and a downer just can't compare. Take my advice, get some H. Or, if you want to snort anything, man, just do coke and have the time of your life.
     
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    That is the worst advice I've ever heard. This forum is highly focused on harm reduction, think a bit more before you tell people to do that kind of thing.
     
  14. Skäggbiff

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    Sure you can snort it. But it's better to swallow, no pain.. In my case, when he did Tramadol- (he got it in wholesale zip bags from Poland) so no capsules, he used toilet paper or smoking paper and swallowed.

    Sometimes he did snort a 50-150mg (after swallowing at least 500mg I think.. 2005 is a long time ago) - just because of the psych feeling of snorting something up your nose. It can take some time tho depending on the amount of course - it clogs your nose pretty fast.

    Good luck!
     
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    I looked into this before for quite a long time and have heard absolutely nothing good about tramadol insufflation. Bypassing 1st pass metabolism perhaps (if snorting it does bypass like say a benzo would) is undesirable with Tramadol as less is going to be converted to M1. I don't even see a mechanism as to how it would help make you any higher not to mention work when going up the nose...
     
  16. Cin2souls

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    Ok, guys, one thing my dog knows a lot about is tramadol. But he's NOT a doctor so use discretion with his advice!
    He says, do NOT snort it! He says it barely even gets you high compared to popping it. He takes 300mg everyday by using a method called "parachuting".. He takes a tissue or piece of toilet paper and splits apart. (If the tissue or toilet paper is not two-ply, you can still use it) rip out a square, and put a pile of a crushed extended release pill on the paper and fold it up into a ball, twisting it closed. Then swallow it like a pill.

    He recommends for a dosage:
    50mg increasing to 50mg in a couple hours depending on how you feel, for someone with no tolerance for opiates. (if youre tolerant to other drugs, don't trust youll be tolerant to tramadol, it is a very strong synthetic opiate and can produce a euphoric effect, but
    overdose could be nasty.)

    200-300mg for one that is very tolerable to opiates.

    400mg not exceeding 600mg for the daily tramadol user. (do NOT use this much unless you have taken more than 300mg before or if you daily use 300mg or more of tramadol per day.)

    Like he said, my dog is NOT a doctor so use his advice with discretion.

    If you have further questions, call a pharmacy and speak to a pharmacist, it's confidential and could possibly save your life.
     
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    I thought tramadol is not an opiate. It its a synthetic opiod. I have afoaf who swears up and down that consuming grape fruit juice prior to taking tramadol will greatly potentiate its effects.
     
  18. Smeg

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    With respect to your post, is it safe to use more than 400mg daily using the method described?

    Does 600mg not exceed that seizure threshold?

    I am prescribed 100mg daily for orthopaedic pain which I take orally in the late evening.

    Is it that you are saying that 600mg in a 24 hour period is the new ceiling, and that it is (for the most part) seizure risk free given the method of ingestion depicted?
     
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    ^^ the global RPh online reference for medical professionals states tramadol doses should not exceed 400mg/24 hrs. The lowering of seizure threshold has been shown to apply to patients with a history or epilepsy, head injury, decreased kidney or liver function, and those taking certain classes of antidepressants such as TCA's or SSRI's (as quoted below).
    But what equals 'supratherapeutic'? Is it anything above the 400mg? I haven't been able to come up with a specific answer :rolleyes:
    If Cin2souls could provide a reference for their guidelines I'd be very interested in reading it :) Otherwise, as it stands, doses of tramadol at that recommended amount could be extremely dangerous IMHO.
    Personally, and this is just my opinion, I wouldn't be messing about with tramadol above the 400mg threshold...it's not worth the risk, users may feel 'fine' but they could suffer subclinical seizures without even being aware.

    ref:
    Luft A, Critical Care Seizures Related to Illicit Drugs and Toxins, Current Clinical Neurology, 2010, 341-354.
     
  20. Mindless

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    It's good that you advise others to use their discretion regarding this advice.

    Taking more than 400mg of Tramadol daily increases the risk of seizures. The following is from an article by Ruth Savage, of the New Zealand Pharmacovigilance Centre, Dunedin. I've only just uploaded the url, so this may not be available until approved by a moderator.

    Serious Reactions with Tramadol: Seizures and Serotonin Syndrome
    Tramadol can induce seizures especially at high doses In the last five years, tramadol has been the most commonly implicated medicine in reports of seizures to CARM ( Centre for Adverse Reaction Monitoring) A total of ten reports were received to December 2006, involving eight females and two males with an age range of 15 to 49 years. Ten patients were given tramadol orally and five intravenously. Seizures have been reported in patients receiving tramadol at recommended dose levels. However, reports to CARM indicate that high doses, co-prescribed medicines and a history of epilepsy may increase the likelihood of seizures with tramadol.

    Reducing the risk of serotonin syndrome and seizures with tramadol
    The dose of tramadol should not exceed the recommended maximum daily dose or the recommended dose for a single administration - see box below.

    TRAMADOL DOSING GUIDELINES
    The total daily dose should not exceed 400mg.

    I understand the urge to increase dosage, especially where tolerance has become an issue. However, high doses are extremely risky. Anyone who needs to take more than 400mg daily would be well advised to taper down their daily dosage to a maximum of 400mg.
     
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