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suboxone withdrawals - how bad and how long?

Discussion in 'Opiate addiction' started by Kate023, Oct 3, 2013.

  1. Kate023

    Kate023 Silver Member

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    I have been on suboxone for about 9 months and have a script, but I have to get off because I'm going to school to be a nurse and can't have it in my system script or not. Anyways, so I'm on about 1 mg per day. I stopped the day before yesterday and it's not THAT bad yet. How bad will the w/d's get? I'm concerned because I'm a full time student and work part time. Will I be totally debilitated or is it not that bad coming off 1 mg/ day? Thanks for reading.
     
  2. Space Numpty

    Space Numpty Palladium Member

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    It really does depends from person to person love,

    Personally i just stopped my Subutex at 2mg (so i could save up the script and get high at later dates....not that they lasted long)

    I felt nothing more than mild/"codeine-like" withdrawal for a couple of days, but this is just my experience.
     
  3. Kate023

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    alright thanks, at least that gives me some hope :)
     
  4. pink_reaper

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    You should be fine with that low of a dosage. I quit cold turkey from 16mg per day and was so sick I had to have my mom hold me up over the toilet so I could puke. Lay on the floor with cold sweats shivering and puking all over myself. So weak that walking through ONE aisle of walmart wore me out to the point I was physically exhausted. Took me about 3 weeks to get over the hump, but like I said I was at 16mg a day. I can't imagine 1mg would be that bad. I quit this time last year at about 4mg a day and it wasn't too bad at all minus the RLS.
     
  5. AKA_freckles

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    i had to get down to a .25 mg dose to jump, and it was still hard. The thing, in my experience, about sub withdrawal is that it's not your typical shit/shiver/cramp fest, like other opiods, it's just a lot of emotional stuff, and the worst insomnia I have ever had. I actually went from subs to methadone because i couldn't take it anymore. i finally did it right after being on methadone for almost 2 years, jumped back to suboxone for 6 weeks to taper down and it was fine. Being on suboxone for 9 months even at 1 mg. will probably disrupt your sleep cycle quite a bit, so prepare for that. good luck!
     
  6. I Said Yes

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    I have little to no experience with opiates (i know i would like them too much) but when I was a little younger and a whole lot stupider... actually took one of these, 8mg, felt good for no more then 10 minutes then 3 days of constant puking. Ever since then I've had a great respect for anyone willing to face physical addiction to better themselves, you can't understand dope sickness unless you've been there. You should call your pharmacist and ask about whether it's recommended you tapper off or cold turkey.
     
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    Kate -023 Just a quick question - why can't you have suboxone in your system? I have never taken a drug test that it shows up in, (even at drug treatment centers) and as a nurse, of course you are allowed to be prescribed opiods for pain relief. I understand there is a stigma to suboxone, but seriously why would this kick you out of the program? my doc just wrote 'for pain relief, as needed' on my script. I am very curious about this since I am finishing my pre-reqs at the moment.
     
  8. InRecovery152

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    I am currently tapering off suboxone from 8mgs, to 6mgs, to 4mgs (currently), then 2mgs, then hopefully 1mg, to nothing. I dose down every month. I worked out this plan with my psychiatrist (who is my suboxone provider and who I see every month) and my therapist (who works in conjunction with my psychiatrist and I see every week). Also, I get only a weeks supply at a time.

    Anyway, I have experience with kicking suboxone which happened June of last year and did not work out well for me. However, I tapered from 8mgs to 4mgs to 2mgs to nothing within the span of a week. The withdrawals began about a day after I stopped and I experienced terrible cold sweats and shivers and goosebumps along with anxiety, insomnia, and an intense urge to use.

    I ended up relapsing on my dad's Vicodin (which he kept in the house for some odd reason knowing his daughter is an addict) for about 2 weeks. My drug of choice was much stronger prescription pain killers like Opana and Percocet, but the Vicodin got my mildly high and no longer had cravings.

    So after I ran out of Vicodin I got back on suboxone for fear of feeling withdrawals again. One year and 4 months later I am finally on the road to getting off. It was a mistake for me to be on for so long because I don't know how bad withdrawals will be this time.

    However, I am tapering down much slower and setting myself up for success by working through things with a therapist, building a support network of friends and family, and starting to try to attend NA meetings.

    Since you're only on 1mg per day your WDs shouldn't be too bad but I can only speculate. It also depends on if you've always been on 1mg or you tapered down from that.

    From my experience and what professionals have told me, WDs aren't as bad if you slowly taper down and aren't on suboxone for too long like I have been. On the other hand, I believe being on subs is a mistake because you just swap one drug for another and still have to go through WDs and subs can get you high. So, all these doctors say subs is a good idea when it doesn't seem like it so I don't know what to believe from these professionals.

    I wish you good luck and I would give yourself at least a couple days off if you can to get through the worst of WDs if they do actually come.
     
  9. Kate023

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    Well I'm on Day 4 (i think) and its not nearly as bad as I had built it up in my head. I had tapered from 16 mg to 1 mg in 4 months and had no symptoms whatsoever in that time. Now that I have taken the jump, I am sick, but it's nothing like dope or methadone withdrawals. I'm having a lot of hot/cold flashes, restless/ cramping legs, general anxiety and mild stomach discomfort, but I dont feel like I'm dying. Granted, I'm really really tired and unable to get anything done, but I suppose that's to be expected. All in all, it's going well.
     
  10. Agent Psycho

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    The variables are the determining factor. How long, how much, male or female, metabolism, exerscice, etc. It seems to me like you will have an easy go of it but just saying that is subjective in that whats easy for me may be hard for you. I also have quit suboxone in the past. 1st time from 8mg a day after 15yrs of opiate use, 3 of which was the subs. This was horrible. Thought I might have a heart attack. would rather have been kicking dope. So I went back on the subs and tapered to .75mg a day aprox dose. This was much easier but still was bad. 14days of hell and then things got better over the next 14 days. 2 months before my sleep came back and I felt normal again. I stayed clean for 6 months but the cravings got the better of me and I slowly slipped back until one morning rescently I realized I was being held hostage by opiates again. My advice would be to get off the suboxone then see if you can get vivitrol shots for a few months. not sure if naltrexone will come up on your urine tests.

    I think the best way to kick opiates these days is to go from using to suboxone for about a year tops. kick the suboxone then get the vivitrol shots for another year. This is my next treatment plan.
     
  11. Namaro

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    I can't agree with this statement more. As a generalization one would never want to be on a drug they don't require for long periods of time. However Being on Subs for 5 years, the complications just kept piling. First it was affecting my urination (Constantly going), then it affected my general self confidence, The worst was the constipation. I'm on Day 14 off the subs and I can get a glimmer of hope that my GI track is righting itself.

    The thing i don't believe many realize is when it comes to subs, we are guinea pigs! This is a new drug and yes they did their trials. But when it comes to real world experiences, we need to gauge what is right for us. Work with your doc, figure out your triggers and get off the subs sooner than later. With that said, make sure your ready to make the jump off the subs, otherwise you'll be back at square one.

    Best Wishes to all! What a terrible thing we are caught up in, it takes a lot of strength to get through!
     
  12. destroyevery1

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    dude week or bi weekly drop an eighth or quarter then till ur at an eighth or less easier to do with strips longer u wait harder it is...use benzos before bed for first 10 days or in morning if ur freakin out.stop benzos after ten days to prevent addiction use someone to dispense hide ur meds so u dont binge its easy i was ex heroin addict withdrawl from sub for me was way easy just mentally i wanted to have something everday any1 who says sub withdrawl is worse did garbage heroin or is a pussey

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    Well done on tapering down your dose!!! I hear about so many people going cold turkey and it's just the biggest facepalm in existence lol

    Cold turkey is unpleasant and unnecessary :)
     
  14. SUBsequent01

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    Hey read your post and thought i could put my .2 cents in. As someone else previously stated, it really does differ from person to person. However just to be on the safe side, if you do start to experience difficult withdrawls maby take .05 mg, if that is a option, and then slowly drop down from there. If this is not a option maby a short term kratom regimen would be beneficial to the withdrawls, just be mindful that kratom addiction is also a very real thing as well. Hope this was of any help to you! Good luck!!!
     
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    I know this is a year late but I was on 16 mg a day went down to 2mg over a year withdrawals were pretty bad I still went to work I have a 1 year old that I take care of all morning than work all day and I'm the biggest vag in the world today is 2 weeks and I feel like a new person what helped a lot was bananas and orange juice every morning with a stress b complex vitamins with I-tyrosine and sam-e right now I know it's mental just a tiny bit of that weird feeling but ever since I slept through the night I got so much better I walked every single morning even though I would rather die but you know I'm glad I winged it out I feel for everyone I been through it so much it's ridiculous but it's over I think I might leave the state lol I live in Baltimore so drugs are so easy to get Wyoming seems nice lol ride horses all day ballin as hell I wish everyone much luck for it is so worth it