The DEA is focusing on research chems

Discussion in 'Research Chemicals' started by sands of time, May 19, 2005.

  1. sands of time

    sands of time Gold Member

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    http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/research_chems/research_ chems_info1.shtml#linder

    Since kids are overdosing on this stuff, the DEA is now going after the distributors. I think many American research chemical suppliers are probably gonna end up shutting down, but the foreign suppliers might be safe for awhile. If people would just invest some money in a scale, this kind of stuff wouldn't happen. To be honest, I'm really suprised that more people have not died.
     
  2. Unsolved

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    As for as I know arn't these chemicals still legel is the US? I thought it was perfectly legel to buy and pocess these checmials until the government makes legistalion?
     
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    Many are analogues of illegal drugs. With the Controlled Substance Analogue Enforcement Act, the DEA is able to prosecute suppliers who sell drugs that are chemically related to illegal drugs. The Emergancy Schedual ACT also gives the DEA an advantage in prosecuting these suppliers. I'm not exactly sure what the Emergancy Schedual Act states, but I think it lets the DEA prosecute suppliers who are selling legal chemicals of concern.

    Basicly, there is no safe ground anymore when it comes to these research chemicals. Just about anyone using or selling these could be prosecuted, but it looks like users are safe for now. I expect to see the DEA unloading some serious fire power on these research chemical suppliers... to protect the children of course.Edited by: sands of time
     
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    theres only one US supplier and his prices are satanic. anyone else they cant touch.
     
  5. korky8097

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    oh im sure if the gov wanted a source in another country that bad, we
    would send some of our own men in there. Face it, alot of
    countries will comply with US demands purely out of fear. Our
    gov. will tell the presses that their gov. is helping this
    distributer and is a serious threat, therefore informing the people
    this and justifying in some peoples eyes that this is the right thing
    to do if the other government denied the US access to bust these
    people.
     
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    You realy think they could have jurisdiction in japan?...I think not, or hopes not.[​IMG]
     
  7. glorf

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    All the feds have to do is charge someone with something and file for
    extradition, and the person usually stays in jail for quite some time
    until the court decides whether to send him over. Japan definitely is
    no safe haven.
     
  8. prospero

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    Definitely worrying, but the Fed's are going to find it very much more difficult to operate against foreign suppliers than domestic ones. They've got to justify to a foreign govt to act against a supplier of something which isn't strictly speaking illegal in the USanyway. Very dubious. They're far more likely to try and get concensus amongst all govts to ban these things outright, but that will take quite some time. Also some govts are going to be more responsive than others. I don't see the US govt having much influence over Chinafor example.
     
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    Extradition happens all the time guys, from almost all countries, even in Japan and Europe. You have to realize that the US is a very powerful country econmically espcially with Japan. The US has mad politial cloud. They can get away with doing a lot. I'm sure you guys watched the news or Unsolved Mysteries. If the US wants a felon all they have to do is tell the government where they think the felon is in the country and the country will pick the felon up for extradition.
     
  10. Cuberun

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    ""These dealers now enter into the privacy of our own homes to entice and sell destruction to our children veiled under the illusion of being safe and legal.""

    I wasn't aware of the fact that the internet was my home. Oh well, I learn something new everyday! Ya'll better not trespass else I'll get me e-shotgun out.

    Japan? China is the place...
     
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    "These dealers now enter into the privacy of our own homes to entice and sell destruction to our children veiled under the illusion of being safe and legal."

    I had no idea my friends and I are all considered children (the only people I know of that have used these around here). That's funny I graduated from high school a long time ago. Oh well yep I'm just a child and I and I need to be protected. Please government tell me what I can and can't do. It's not like this is a free country or anything.
     
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    "These dealers now enter into the privacy of our own homes to entice
    and sell destruction to our children veiled under the illusion of being
    safe and legal."




    Does this mean that they are gonig to be charged with Breaking and Entering as well?

    How about charging Internet providers with aiding and abetting?



    How about all those stores selling alchohol and tobacco under the illusion its safe?
     
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    I'm just so excited that I'll be able to tell all my friends that I've had at least 50000 pornochicks in my house engaging in acts of sexual nature. They'll probably believe me as much as I believe the DEA!
     
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    Um..... didn't that happen about ten months ago when these busts
    actually occurred? The US isn't exactly teeming with Research Chemical suppliers
    at this moment.

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  15. sands of time

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    Though the DEA will have a harder time nabbing foreign suppliers, it won't be to difficult. The DEA is, in my opinion, one of the most powerful agencies in the United States, and they have no problem getting most foreign governments to comply with they're will. Believe it or not, most Asian countries are even harder on drugs than the States. I think Canada has shown opposition to the war on drugs more than any other country.
     
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    Ya u know it... as coke & H. flow into the country even less impeded, thanks to the DEA spending precious resources on research chemicals. Of course the U.S. gov't makes a bundle on the hard drug trade in the USA, and nothing on research chemicals.

    Not that I have anything against anything particular flowing into the country, it's just that the DEA are a bunch of morons with their dicks in the pockets of politicians. It's all about money and getting re-elected, in whatever order. Pfooey... [​IMG] Edited by: Nicaine
     
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    The gov. should have at least made it illegal first before going and
    doing this insain act. Its like arresting japanese toy makers
    because a few kids in america choaked on the toy while their parents
    werent watching. I wish more than anything in the world to have a
    sit down with bush and just see his views and see him try to back them
    up, media free, adviser free, just me and him. Nothing violent
    about this, i would just love to give him the facts, see what he has to
    say on it, and see if an inteligent answer even comes for questions
    about legalization of marijuana, x for psychiatric use, ect. We
    cannot be blamed for A FEW stupid kids who OD by diping fingers in
    bags, eyeballing, and not researing doses. I mean really the
    ratio of OD/non OD on rc's is just insain. We are talking handfulls of
    cases, maybe half of them which the rc they took was actuall
    responsible. I really think the DEA should at least inform the
    people before they do this shit, i mean i thought we were supposed to
    live in a democracy where the people had voice in decisions. Ahh
    ill stop before i get too worked up.
     
  18. Softrat

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    As far as I know the few deaths associated with Research Chemicals all involved adults, not kids. Considering how isrresponsible teenagers are this fact alone suggest that Research Chemicals were primarily being purchased and used by adults.
     
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    ^depends on your defintion of adult. Alot of 20 something "adults" are
    much more mature or smarter when it comes to drugs that teenagers.
     
  20. GoaM

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    Wow, that's pretty harsh. Linder got life in prison. That's fucked up. Ibought lactone off him back in my GHB days. Wow. I think he'd of gotten off lighter for cocaine.