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Anal use - TO plug or Not to Plug

Discussion in 'Ecstasy & MDMA' started by Kitten, Feb 22, 2006.

  1. Kitten

    Kitten Silver Member

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    Thats the question!

    Ive searched over the forums and read as much as i could but i still need a little encouragement and to clear up a few things :)

    1)Ok so basically if swim had 100mg of mdma in a capsule would he have a better time plugging it or would he have a better time just using it orally.

    (god my thread sounds filthy already )


    Ok Next question


    2) How does swim stop the capsule from falling out.... i mean........basically could swim insert and then walk around the club or would swim have to sit for 10 mins or what!!!

    3)whats the difference in PEAK and DuraTION between plugging and oral!

    Thanks alot guys and gals :)
     
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  2. Nagognog2

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    Not that Bongo would suggest such a dreadful thing, but he would put it into solution in water and use a small (3 c.c. or so) syringe - without the needle. Or similar. One of Bongo's buddies has been known for the inventive use of a turkey-baster. I will NEVER eat Thansgiving Dinner at his house.
     
  3. Kitten

    Kitten Silver Member

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    lol i cant read any of your posts without hearing it in my head the way it would sound in clockwork orange ! lol brilliant!

    swim cant get hold of a syringe or a turkey thing ....... hehe
     
  4. Pinkavvy

    Pinkavvy Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Gelcaps suck to plug with, it's best to use pressed pills. If you dont have access to an enema or douche kit, then get the gel cap wet with water (it'll get slimy and easier to insert) and shove up as far as you can. the first couple minutes while it dissolves you'll feel like you need to shit but dont ... just hold it for a few minutes then go dance. will be of short duration (close to half) and the peak will be stronger. Also, the comon will be amazing feeling starting at your root chakra.
     
  5. raven3davis

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    SWIM would recommend plugging it. It seems to kick in faster but the roll is about the same duration. Just dip the cap in vasoline and shoove it up your ass. It is best to stick it up as far as your second knuckle. And no, it will not fall out. Resist the urge to take a crap and in 30 minutes you will be rolling your balls off. SWIM would prefer taking a bigger dose than 100mg so SWIM would definitely plug it. More MDMA will get into your bloodstream so the roll will be more intense. Plugging is the way to go.
     
  6. Kitten

    Kitten Silver Member

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    thanks for the advice!

    So ive heard that some people are saying the effects would last just as long as taking it oraly but ive heard some people say that it dont last as long....

    just want to know which one is right! :)
     
  7. raven3davis

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    SWIMS friend told him it is about the same duration but the comeup is a bit shorter so the overall roll might be a bit shorter. SWIMS friend said it hits you like a ton of brinks and you have a good 4-6 hour roll depending on quality etc but SWIMs friend said he has never plugged molly. SWIMs friend have only crushed up XTC tabs and plugged them supposedly. The said it works wonderfully. They have been told that sticking up a hard pressed pill might take a while longer and hight also not dissolve as well. THis is just speculation though. SWIMs friend said hasnt plugged molly but he always puts his Xos into gelcaps when he plugs them so it should be the same concept.

    Why does swim not like plugging gelcaps Pink? Some dude said he prefered gelcaps because you can break up a tab and put it in there. Molly would seem even better. With molly you wouldnt really need to break it up. Just shoove the gelcap up there ;) Well everyone has their own opinion though, some are even disgusted at the thought of plugging a tab. Some of the same people wouldnt hesitate to snort a tab though. It should be a good experience though either way. Plugging will intensify it and the come up will be shortened so the overall duration will probably be shortened by about the same amount. This is just SWIMs thoughts thought it will probably be different for everyone. The time lost is worth the effects gained though, no doubt.
     
  8. Kitten

    Kitten Silver Member

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    hey thx a lot for the advice :)

    Ok 1 more questioN! swim has already made the capsules swim couldnt be sure it was .5 grams but grinded it up and made 3 capsules with maybe around 125mg and 2 capsules with maybe 70 mg in it!


    Swims question is!

    Should swim plug the 125mg or the 70mg

    swim hasnt done x around a year but did a few shitty halfs last few weeks.

    and swim thought they where shit!


    Thanks :)
     
  9. Pinkavvy

    Pinkavvy Platinum Member & Advisor

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    if it's your first experience with plugging, swim recomends to start at the 70-100mg range.
     
  10. Kitten

    Kitten Silver Member

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    well swim is going clubbing tomorrow night! ill be posting a report as well!

    if anyone wants one that is :p

    Just one more thing so swim is thinking he is going to plug the 70mg cap and see what happens..... but is it safe to plug another 70mg one after if he doesnt feel much effect!
     
  11. ~lostgurl~

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    I remembered reading this article about a year ago detailing this method..... the link said something like:

    "UYB - The new and increasingly popular alternative to iv heroin - The same result without a needle"

    I thought wow, what a find, can't wait to find out what "UYB" stands for.

    Clicked on link...... "Up Your Bum" ...... I had to laugh, what a sales pitch!


    :eek: :crazy :eek: :crazy

    I did a google search on it and found the page for ya, it has all the info that you are looking for I think - just replace h with MDMA or drug of choice.

    http://helpingaddicts.net/uyb.htm


    Up Your Bum


    [​IMG]How far will you go before you try an alternative? Up Your Bum is a quick and safer alternative to injecting.


    Up Your Bum
    Sticking drugs up your bum (UYB) has been done by both drug users and pain control specialists for many years. UYB is a quick an easy way of taking drugs that's safer than injecting. UYB is a quick and easy way of taking drugs that's safer than injecting.

    You may choose to use UYB all the time or just some of the time, to replace injecting or only when fixing might be too risky.

    Just remember it's your health, it's your choice.
    • Its quick and easy to do.
    • There's no needle, so unless you tear the inside of your rectum, there's no blood. This means there is much less risk of getting HIV and Hepatitis B and C.
    • Your bum is used to dealing with bacteria, so putting drugs UYB is not going to give your insides big problems.
    • You get a fast hit and rush.
    • The anus (outside of your bum) has two muscles which act like a double seal to avoid leaks.
    • No needle means less risk.
    Non-Injectors
    While UYB is a safer alternative for injectors it carries greater risks than other non-injecting ways of taking drugs such as smoking, swallowing, or snorting. Drugs taken UYB have a faster and fuller effect than when smoked, for example - so take care.


    How to Do It
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    • Before you start UYB go to the toilet if you think that you might need to and wash your hands.
    • Prepare the drugs in a spoon as you would for injection.
    • Remember to use a separate set of equipment for each person.
    • Draw the drugs into the barrel. You don't need to use a needle. You can draw the liquid straight into a barrel. The filter is optional.
    • Don't use more than 1.5mls of water to avoid flooding your bum.
    • Once you have drawn the drugs into the barrel you are ready to go. Wipe some spit or lubricant on your anus to help ease the barrel in.
    • Make a farting motion to open up the anus. Push the barrel in one centimeter. No further or the drug won't come on fast.
    • While sitting, squatting or standing release the farting motion and gently squirt in the liquid.
    • Withdraw the barrel and dispose of it in a sharps bin.
    • The two muscles in your anus act as a double seal to prevent leakage. The liquid and drugs will be absorbed quickly (in under 30 seconds) and that's all there is to it.
    • Wash your hands. If you don't you could contaminate your remaining drugs or your clean equipment.
    [​IMG]


    Be careful
    • [​IMG]Be careful not to tear or cut the inside of your rectum as there may be a risk of spreading blood-borne viruses if you share barrels.
    • Even if you don't have cuts or tears. you can still spread infections or viruses like Hepatitis A if you share barrels.
    • With UYB the risk of overdose is just as high as with injecting. So remember to avoid mixing benzos or alcohol with heroin, or cut your dose if you're drunk or pilled up.
    • Having squirted drugs up your bum, you may feel a sudden urge to squirt them back out again. This is rare but don't panic as you only have to hold it in for 30 seconds for the drugs to be absorbed.
    • If you regularly squirt cocaine or crack up your bum, then you might limit the flow of blood to the rectum and cause serious damage inside your bum. You can reduce the risk by taking breaks from using, or switching between different ways of using crack and cocaine.
    [​IMG]Why does it work?
    You have a rich blood supply around the rectum. The bottom third of the rectum is supplied by a set of blood vessels that lead directly to the heart. By inserting the drugs slowly while you are in an upright position, gravity will make sure the drugs reach the right part of the rectum to give you the best rush. UYB is quicker than intra-muscular or skin popping. Its the best rush without injecting into veins.


    What kit do I need?
    You will need your own spoon and any other equipment you usually use for making up your drug ready for fixing. A barrel (smaller the better to avoid damaging the inside of your bum) and a water-based lubricant like KY Jelly.

    Don't share barrels. Use a new barrel each time you use. Mark your barrel to stop it being accidentally used by another person.


    Some drugs, like cocaine and crack, may numb the inside of your bum making it difficult to tell if you've damaged it.

    [​IMG]So Remember
    • Treat your rectum with care to avoid cuts and tears.
    • Don't share barrels.
    • If you put drugs UYB, they'll come on faster and harder like with injecting.
    • Don't worry about leaks. Pushing the barrel deeper up your bum wont work as well.
    • Don't use a needle!
     
  12. oldman

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    so has anyone out there ever taken a roll orally then plugged a booster 2-3 hours later. swim was wondering if the rush is still good when boosting. he was thinking 125mg mda orally followed 2-3 hours later plugging 35-50mg mda.
     
  13. alittlepilot

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    I really really wish someone had replied to this! I love to snort my pills - it's just great fun and a pleasant rush and easy to bump. But I found my nose was getting sensitive and to give it a break I decided to give plugging a try. I used slightly less than I usually would for a bump and plugged away! Super easy. I was thinking, "This is GREAT!" And then BAM.... 2 minutes later I got SLAMMED. Snorting my original (and much larger) dose didn't hit me half as hard as a quick little bump up the bum. I honestly can't decide if this is the best rush ever or just a little too much. Feels great, then I'm shivering and sweating and then back to feeling great. This has been going on for almost an hour.

    Overall I'm definitely going to be plugging again - for my initial hit. But I would really really discourage using your bum for a bump - you might get a little more than you bargained for.
     
  14. trolleyd88

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    Someone I knew only booty bumped once but took MDMA orally many times and will never waste molly by putting it in his mouth again. He says using the solution method with 2 mL of solution in an oral syringe is the best method. Fast onset with less product being used and more intense experience. He said in addition to the enhanced effects it's also kinda cool/fun to make doing molly a little more ritualistic, if you can imagine putting drugs in your bum a fun ritual haha.
     
  15. Judo Johnny

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    All other guides suggest sticking it 2-4 inches in your rectum. Is 1cm truly the correct distance?
     
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  16. typical_mundane_alias

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    Meester Johnny,

    I haven't read the preceding posts, so my comments are not correspond to that discussion. However, I would like to respond to your specific question.

    Quick answer: for all intents and purposes, 1cm is NOT a sufficient distance into the anal canal/rectum to achieve optimum absorption of a substance; further, inserting a substance 2-4in (or really, 2.5-5in) is both necessary and sufficient to achieve rapid and thorough absorption.

    Why? First consider the motivations behind (pun not intended, lol) rectal administration which are: 1) increased bioavailability due to a by-pass of 1st-pass metabolism in the liver, and 2) rapid absorption (and thus rapid distribution) of the substance due to a highly absorptive rectal mucosa.

    Second, consider the anatomy of the region. The last 6-7in of the GI tract is drained into the caval (aka systemic) circulation while the GI tract above that point drains into the portal vein and right into the liver (which is bad). So, for sure one wants to be no further than about 5inches into the anal canal/rectum.

    Lastly, to understand why 1cm (~0.4in) is not quite enough, consider the histology (i.e. cell type and structure) of the region. The skin/mucosa of the rectum changes considerably as one moves from the external to the internal environment and the change isn't absolutely complete until about 2-2.5 cm into the anal canal. Exterior to this point the covering of the passage is more like the skin on the outside of the body - with poor blood supply and a layer of (more or less) water-impermeable material called keratin. However, past this point (deeper within the rectum) the covering, which is called a mucosa, loses the protective layer of kertin and becomes highly vascular - which allows for a massive absorptive capacity (normally used to remove the last bits of water before...well, you know). This change means that the outer few centimeters are not nearly as absorptive as the area just a little bit farther in.

    So, to sum it all up, it is readily apparent that going too far in will defeat the purpose of plugging a substance, but the reason the 1cm is not enough has to do with the dramatic increase in absorptive rate and capacity provided by the highly vascular, non-keratinized mucosa of the rectum proper versus the anal canal. The reason I suggest several inches (rather than just 1-2 inches) is basically a security measure to ensure that all of the substance is in that optimal zone and the maximal absorption is achieved - because, let's be honest...if you're going to stick something up your ass you might as well make sure you getting the maximum advantage

    As a side note, this does not mean that the first 1cm wont absorb any of the substance. It will. The process will just be slower and probably less complete.