Well, SWIM just tried something remarkably stupid... heheheh I have quit smoking and has been having a tough time, he's on the patch, but I think the patch isnt the best method for him. I have been craving the nicotine rush alot, and thinks that the constant level of it in his system is the cause. Well, SWIM fell and smoked a cigarette yesterday, and got nothing at all out of it because of the patch... so he got to thinking about 20x tobacco. SWIM chopped up two patches, the clear ones with the nicotine in the glue, and placed them in a small vial of methyl alcohol, he let that sit till this morning, and then dumped it out onto a small wad of tobacco and let it dry under a lightbulb. SWIM just took his first hit of super baccy 15 minutes ago, it was about 2 to 6 crumbs of tobacco worth. He stuck it in a pipe and inhaled, the smoke got about half way down his throat and caught, this led to a caughing fit of doom, I was coughing so hard he headed for the porcelain idol thinking it was time for a technicolor sacrifice, but only a horrible cough was experianced. The smoke tasted like 100 cigarettes and burnt a burn that made nicotine gum seem like juicy fruit. I was afraid that he would get too much in his system thru his mucal membrane, just from the deposited smoke, and rinced out his mouth with water and spit alot. SWIM imedeatly(why dosnt firefox spellcheck on this board? damnit, I cant spell, I neeeed spellcheck.) began to sweat profusly and got a rush, of sorts, but he thinks that alot of it was the adrenaline rush from fear and the endorphines from the gaging and such, but there was definatly alot of nicotine in it too. I think that nicotine tolerance kept most of the rush at bay, and would like to try this again, at a much lower dose, once, when he hasnt had a smoke or a patch in a few days... I think that he'll stop using the patch tomorow, and go cold turkey, and if he needs a smoke in a few days, he'll try a single crumb of this tobacco, no more. May be a interesting rush, as well as a deterant to future nicotine cravings SWIM wonders if a few doses of this may train his brain to shut up about nicotine once it realises it's poison... All I am sure of, is that the patch is keeping him hooked longer and needs to go. I did not expect this much niccotine to come out in the final product as he noticed that it is extremely volatile and hard not to loose under any heat, maybe a lightbulb isnt enough heat to volatise much nicotine, that or alcohol dosnt take much with it when it evaporates, unlike water. Mandatory disclaimer: Kids, dont try this at home, as it realy is quite dangerous and stupid, as well as mostly pointless due to unpleasantness. I am a trained idiot, having received a degree in stupidity at one of the nations leading unlearning institutes. Stupidity like this should only be attempted by professionals.