Hi everyone. I am a first time contributor to ANY forum, so please bear with her. I have been using/addicted to Tramadol (daily use) for about 10 yrs. Swim began with 1 50 mg pill per day and over the years increased to (at my worst) 10-12 pills per day. About 2 years ago I was able to bring that down to 6-7 per day. About a year ago swim knew she couldn't get her pills on time and was set to run out. Panicking, she heard about Kratom to help with wds. For a few days until her pills arrived she used small amounts of Kratom as a surprisingly good substitute. She surmised that the Kratom actually seemed more powerful and enjoyable than the Tramadol, which she had built a tolerance to and was just getting through the day on at that point. So when her pills arrived she decided to continue with them, fearing that the Kratom as a substitute might be worse. She continued to use both up to this present day because the Kratom gave her the energy and sense of well being she felt she needed to take care of her family. Currently I am taking 4 50mg Tramadol per day ( 2 @ a time) and 2 or 3 doses of Kratom about 6g each. I use powdered premium commercial Kratom. I am ready to get clean for good but isn't sure how to proceed. She thought of cutting out the Tramadol completely and just use the Kratom. Then she would either taper off from this or go cold turkey. Her main concern is not being in a state able to care for her two kids while dealing with wds. Don't know how to proceed. Does anyone know if wds from Kratom are less sever than from Tramadol? Many here have said Kratom has very little wd symptoms, but I have been using it daily for about a year which she thinks is different than their experiences, and her Tramadol use is pretty severe, she thinks. Swim thanks you for your help!