Trips to Peru/Amazon

Discussion in 'DMT and Ayahuasca' started by tre2005be, Jun 4, 2006.

  1. tre2005be

    tre2005be Silver Member

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    I was wondering if anyone had ben on a trip to Peru or anywhere in the amazon and experienced a real ayahuasca sesssion with a shaman? If so what was the experience like? This is something i have been considering for a long time and would love to hear any first hand experiences.
     
  2. Silence_Inc

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    I didn't go to peru - but follows class with a shaman trained in peru - every year there is a trip to peru and some friends of I went there to get teached by the teacher of their shaman. they got back a while ago. the amazon is a very intens place and there is alot of true magic happening there. swim can only tell you that when you are ready you'll find yourself suddenly in peru. and when you drink the vine - time and space no longer exist.

    ayahuasca is a very powerfull substance. it is nothing you have ever done.(did your friend do it already?) ... it is really a teacher - and right after the first time your life is changed! ... seriously! ... it keeps on working for weeks and months after the first time.

    I would suggest that you look up the internet - there are alot of agencies that have travels to peru. it is a good idea to do it with a shaman - tho not all shamans are evenly strong and follow the same methods ... you have to look and follow instinct before you can find a good one. I am lucky he found this group of people, they know all swim needs to know.

    next year swim and his girlfriend will go to peru for 3 months ... intens training :) ... yep - ayahuasca is magic.
     
  3. tre2005be

    tre2005be Silver Member

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    I have never tried ayahuasca but has wanted to for some time now. A life spiritually life changing experience is exactly what I need. I've always wanted to goto the amazon ever since i was young, theres something mystical about such and ancient place, i hope you enjoy our time there. What does You mean when he says he follows a class?
     
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    tre2005be Silver Member

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    Bit off topic, but how do i edit my posts? i made a lot of pelling errors in my las post.
     
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    robin_himself Gold Member

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    Can one "just" go and find himself a shaman? Are foreigners welcomed to such an extent? Cause one might think that the shaman really isn't bothered to teach just anybody. Please correct me if i'm wrong!
     
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    tre2005be Silver Member

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    Its definitly possible to find them on the internet. There normally done as package holidays where you fly over and stay with the shaman and a few other people.
     
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    robin_himself Gold Member

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    but do you get the real deal or just a nice vacation and lots of money spend?
     
  8. tre2005be

    tre2005be Silver Member

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    well i don't know for sure thats why i'm asking. people on other forums have told me that some of them are the real deal, whilst others are just there to fleece westerners. I was told the best thing to do is ask the locals in Peru, and they usually know the best ones.
     
  9. Silence_Inc

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    robin :

    a shaman isn't bothered with someone "wanting to learn". cause the information isn't private you know ... + the information learned with ayahuasca is always about yourself. you only learn about you - and in extent about life itself, but through your personal road. shaman is there only to guide.

    + they to have to make money and survive - there is nothing wrong with that.

    but offcourse there are some that only see the cash flow - and just hand over the ayahuasca and give little guidance. that's where you have to be carefull. not to end up with a 'so called shaman'. someone that just isn't qualified in helping people finding the road within. ayahuasca can be tricky - as the mind kind be tricky.

    as for class - swim means it like he says it - a class, where you are teached. a group of poeple that come together and get teached by a teacher ...
     
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  10. Voices

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    Someone please give this poster some rep points for me, thank you.

    I am planning on going to Peru just so I can hike the Andes just because I can. I had a dream where I was on my death bed and was approached by myself. I asked myself-

    "So what was it like to know you could only hope to live a limited number of years and then cease to exist forever?"

    "It is wonderful" is what I said. It is wonderful is what I say.

    I am not seeking the guidance of a Shaman because I choose to program myself. And that is a purely person choice; others do as you will.

    One special view I hold concerning those that seek out the culturally archaic is that there will soon be an anthropological setback (and yes I'm talking about the evil homogeny that is waking up all around us, generally referred to as m eterialism). It was gone before the fla$h.
     
  11. quantumbrujo

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    I have been to Peru and experienced ayahuasca with a local shaman in Iquitos,but this was back in 1991 and being 15 years ago it's hard to remember everything about the trip exept that swim vomited like crazy and was then transported to another realm very much like smoking a hit of DMT,but smoother and with more meaning behind the visions.More like a shroom trip but not exactly the same at the same time.It's hard to put the experience into words and to really know you have to do it yourself.I was there for a month in the amazon and a buddy he met down there rescued three baby Jaguars from a hunter who had shot the mother and brought them back to his motel room. here is swim with one of them

    ai74.photobucket.com_albums_i257_quantumbrujo_JagandJerry.jpg

    and here he is with all three

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  12. wakkaa

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    SWIM's friend and SWIM are planning a trip to Peru and are trying to gather some contacts that could hook them up with some "real shamans" not the kind that are involved with agencies. I vaguely remember them mentioning something about wanting to experience San Pedro and Ayahuasca. Any information or contacts that that anyone could supply them with via PM would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
     
  13. idreamthesky

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    I am also heading to Peru this upcoming summer to explore Machu Picchu and would greatly appreciate any help in locating a local shaman who could provide an eye opening expericence with Ayahuasca. I am concerned about the laguange barrier as I know very little Spanish. Are their authentic shamans who speak English around there or is spoken language even a big deal in such contexts (although there should be someone in the group I am going with with does speak Spanish)? Any tips on how to locate a guide with access to Ayahuasca would be greatly appreciated as would any recommendations. Thanks!
     
  14. Metomni

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    I am delighted to hear that doing such things are actually in the realm of possibility. I had his doubts as to whether trips like this to other places with shamans would be reasonably undertaken, but is ecstatic to hear that it is indeed, reasonable.
     
  15. zera

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    My heading to Peru over Christmas to lodge with a friend from Lima. Supposedly to find a shaman one has to go to the jungle, which is somewhat out of the way from Lima and Machu Picchu and takes a few days. Swim will report back on the details after he gets back. San Pedro though is supposedly used and sold all over Lima.
     
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    Thanks, I will be glad to hear all about swiy's time there, especially if they are able to find San Pedro
     
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    Peter Gorman's crew is the best. I've never had so much personal attention. I'm the type of person who needs to be in control of my situation at all times, but with Peter I learned to let go and let others take care of me. I had the best time of my life with Peter and his crew. I made friends I never thought I would ever meet from around the world. Peter took us through the town of Iquitos and showed us the full spectrum of life from the jail, to the slums, to the decent, he humbled me. Allowed me to know where I stood in the wheel of Life. He takes you through the Belen markets and introduces you to how to work the markets. He opens up your mind, and allows you to experience life in the jungle as it really is, not polished and shiny as those expensive camps.
    I went fishing for pirhana with George, and caught a decent one, not as big as the giant one George caught later. Saw a sloth, lizards everywhere, met the Native Matses on our hike, rested at their home for awhile. Hiked through the jungle, canoed at night, that was inpressive to watch Hairo paddle the canoe silently, the way the paddles are designed to enter the water. Silence, pure jungle. Hairo caught fish with his hand, flipping them into the boat, and using his gaf(spear) to snatch fish. The experience was so wonderful, a great introduction to the South American jungle.
    On our hike they should us medicinal plants and trees, you could swing on a vine if you wanted. We experienced sympathetic magic while on the hike. We disturbed a nest of wasp/hornets and Sidalat told us to bite the tip of our tongue to stop them from stinging us. It worked too, they were flying all over around us, and the way sympathetic magic works is by causing pain to yourself the wasps somehow felt this and left us alone. Truth.
    Iquitos was fun, it’s an “In your face wild place” the sights, sounds, smells, people, and natives all were beautiful. The Camu Camu fruit juice and other juices were the most amazing sensations of flavor. The food is cheap, for $3.00US you get a meal for 3 people.
    Peter really does a great job introducing you to the Amazon, he’ll take you and show you how to use Iquitos. When he let us go on our own I felt more than confident that I could get around town with no worries.
    You know, we all have these stupid built in prejudices about the jungle, fears and such, that go away after 2 days with Mr. Gorman. I never felt so comfortable in a foreign place. I remember when we were in the jungle at the Magic Camp wanting something and it seemed as soon as I went to look for what I wanted Mom, Juan, George, or Ruber had it for me. And young Jherman my new little brother was the coolest kid I ever met. He would light the night up with the lamps. We had such a beautiful experience. I met my fiancee here in the middle of the jungle. Talk about life changing experiences. The ayahuasca was strong, stronger than what I have made, and I’ve done 400g caapi with 150g Chac of my own. Hairo the Curandero sings so beautiful, I remember when that giant anaconda encircle me, and thousands of fractal snakes were underneath me as a carpet, all moving this way and that, then a large anaconda entered me and coiled up in my stomach, and at the same moment Hairo stopped singing, and the snakes all went away. I was hanging there wondering what just happened. Seb saw a panther, and experienced it’s power in his visions. When Hairo started singing again, I met my ally a small fairy type of being, who still is with me, along with Anaconda, frog, lizard, and fox.
    There is no FEAR!!! The fear you have is leaving your body and becoming aware of your Immortal light body, able to walk and be in the Middle World AWARE!
    I remember Seb and Andy coming to me in their Light bodies in the vision asking “What do we do now?” I just said to them to go with it and flow. I flashed back and forth between my physical and lightbody. At one point I started wandering around in my lightbody, seeing thousands of plant spirits. They were sitting on the branches of trees, standing next to their plants, beings coming and going in and out of their respective plant homes. Each being the same yet different like us in appearance. I saw the King and Queen of the jungle, they came and bowed and went back into their home. Then there were those dark entities, outside the boundaries of the circle calling me to them.
    I was dead, and I knew it, yet I also knew that my body was there alive and aya sick. When I would purge I would be back suddenly. I couldn’t walk, I was a mass of flesh with no muscular control, and George and Peter helped me to the outhouse. I was extremely sick, and I purge those 3 darts into my hand, a ball of phelm with 3 needle like objects, I tossed them into the trees as Aya showed me to. She showed me how the plumbing of the jungle worked. How purging and how the plants recycled the energies we deposited for them. How the plants helped cleanse us and how we fed them with our purging. She showed me the basura(garbage littered throughout the Amazon) especially the batteries tossed by tourists and natives into the river and how she is being contaminated, asked for help for her river and her people. She showed me the lost souls, lost in the jungle. I saw monsters, and death. I experienced the Light and Dark and traveled through the depths of the 3 worlds. I went into the Underworld and traveled the paths. Aya showed me our true home after we die, where we go, our true home. I went into the depths of space and saw the universe and sat on the edge of the abyss, looking into it. Then Hairo stopped singing and I was in the outhouse once more.
    I remember the next morning and seeing that damn black Vulture Peter pointed out to me, the vulture knowing I had died, I flipped the middle finger at the Vulture, giving the bird to the bird. It was bummed with no one to feed on in the Magic Camp. Peter just gave me this look, a twinkle in his eye.
    I walked over to the food Tambo and Sidalat say Arbol.... and gave me a new name. She knew my visions, made comments, and I said no grande Arbol. My name is Tree, but my new family KNEW who I truly was, and am. Magic yes it exists. I am so thankful for the experience with Peter, it has changed my life for the better. Letting me understand and being humbled.
    The food every morning served by a young girl, bowls of fresh fruit, chicken and rice, fish, coca tea, coffee. Life is beautiful. Now when I drink, I no longer have stupid visions, I go right into my lightbody, I learned to control the spirits. I’ve seen entities all my life, now I have the ability to turn it on and off as needed. I still see them but they leave me alone unless I call them now. What I really remember vividly is being in my lightbody talking to George and telling him he could have my backpack. You see George can’t speak any english and I stink at spanish, yet we communicated in my vision. George was my protector, he just sat with me through most of my Aya sickness, caring for me, being my grounding and center. There was a point where I suddenly was walking with George and we were talking to each other and I suddenly came back into physical awareness and George and I were walking off towards the outhouses, and I said musica, George laughed and turned me around and took me back to the ceremonial Tambo.
    Parrots, Macaws, Monkeys, the Butterfly farm, the graveyard Mapacho ceremony, going through the slums, going downriver on the riverboat with a powerful little Wizard standing next to me, Mushrooms on the Amazon on a full moon. I remember sitting at La Noche and remembering everything as I drank my Camu Camu, watching the fibers of light. Knowing that the Jungle is hungry, Iquitos is hungry, the people hungry. Knowing the hunger of the Jungle and how we feed her. Seeing the Dark and the Light, and knowing my true place in this Universe.
    You all really should think about a trip with Mr. Gorman to his Magic Camp. Talk about a life changing experience...
     
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      Awesome information about which crew to look into taking the tour with.
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  18. Enfintity

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    wow! incredible...thanks for sharing!
    does mr peter gorman have a website?
    i'm very interested, but not sure if i could afford such a trip.
    though, i am grateful the opportunity is there for those are able.
     
  19. Metomni

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    I would also like contact information/possible ways of getting in touch with these possible escort voyages if any you's have such information.
     
  20. fnord

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    comercial links are a no-no,im sure you can find this info via google.
     
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