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Trouble with the new Oxymorphone pill Opana

Discussion in 'Oxymorphone' started by Pliskin, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. Pliskin

    Pliskin Mercury Member

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    My friend Boris just came across some 10mg Opanas recenty, the ones with an "E" imprint on one side and then the mg amount imprinted on the other. Apparently these contain some new form of extended release silicone of some sort, this is just what Boris heard through the grapevine, and says he knows no efficient way of consuming these. Boris asked me to find out this information for him. Any suggestions or info would help. Thanks guys.

    Charlie
     
  2. blackwrx

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    Oral is really the only way for now. You could let it soak overnight, and evap the water to get oxymorphone powder maybe.
     
  3. Eeeee Dub!!!

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    Throw it in the trash and go find something you can abuse properly.

    If they had these 5 years ago I would never have gotten into opiates in the first place. Unless you wxnt to look up and perform a long scientific proccess you are gonna have to just eat it. Chopping it up in little pieces helps and drink a glass of grapefriut juice with it to. Sorry for the bad news buddy, good luck!
     
  4. Drummer16

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    Can someone please tell me if I can the generics crush up fine? Everyone, just switch your meds to the generic. Fuck endo.
     
  5. pillyd47

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    I know that you can use the ISO extraction on the 15mg generic oxymorphones, I believe imprinted with a half moon on one side and 262 on the other. or just snort the powder. As of yet I haven't seen the new formulation opanas and hope it stays that way! Sound like hell... Gonna stick with generics from now on atleast when possible.
     
  6. Pliskin

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    Boris told me he chopped up the pills as best he could, microwaved them to make them soft, then chewed and sucked on the pieces until they dissolved. He told me he felt great after about 20 minutes of the pieces dissolving. Boris, however, said he would not recommend these types of Opana pills to anyone.

    Thanks for the replies guys.

    Charlie
     
  7. Drummer16

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    Thanks for the info about the half moon generic 15mgs. I found this info elsewhere as well. It said it's a LOT of powder to snort. There weren't any gelling issues, and they seemed to work the same as the name brand. Sounds like I will have to lower my toleriance.
     
  8. jman1982

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    Hello all, my cat has been wondering about these generic's and was kind of scared to try these because of not knowing if they are any good or not. So I will tell my cat's vet to go ahead and give my cat a script of these and try them and report back. SWIM's cat has just recently started "Plugging" the 10MG Opana ER's and WOW I LOVE THIS way better than snorting them. My CAT really love's his doctor, he give's him what ever he wants because my CAT has been a client since he was 12 years old. He know's that my cat knows his stuff and ALL of the danger's and know's his limit's on anykind of pill. The doctor said my CAT know's better about pills them he does..LOL
     
  9. Drummer16

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    Weird, plugging is supposed to be like 10% bioavailability...you sure it was as great as you thought? I think I have tried it before and didn't notice much...
     
  10. jman1982

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    I think you might be wrong. Everyone else has told SWIM that plugging these pills would be just like IV'ing them, and the bioavailability would be really high (70-90%). That is just what SWIM was told by some "old" dogs...LOL
     
  11. Drummer16

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    You got any references to this rather than just hearsay? If you are right, my god, my life will change forever. I have read a few threads here and there on both bluelight and other forums that say plugging is about 10%. I think the ultimate bioavailability thread says it too lol. I am lazy to get sources, but I think everyone on this forum would agree with me and that if plugging was really 90%, we all wouldn't be insufflating these lol. So, the "onus" (kind of a pun on anus, get it?) is on you to show otherwise.
     
  12. johnnyw

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    I'm too lazy to look it up as well, but I was always under the impression (and it makes sense logically and I still believe it) that plugging and snorting have the same bioavailability, regardless of what it is. The reason is because they are both mucous membranes. That's it. They are the same thing. Maybe you could argue one worked better than the other, but it shouldn't be from bioavailability, this is assuming they are properly moisturized. I say this because the head of your penis is technically a mucous membrane and I highly doubt sticking your dick in a pile of coke would do anything. Ladies, the inside of the clitoral hood and the clit itself are onboard the mucous membrane train. Kind of gross. Oh, and the urethra. So, hypothetically if we put them ... aw nevermind, you see where I'm going. Stop yelling at me, all I'm saying is the difference in the bioavailability of things in the anus and the nose in optimal conditions should be statistically negligible.
     
  13. bumpie

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    Ok, those damn POS pill formulated in the new hard plastic have hit here hard also. Until someone can figure out how to defeat this crap I think I will just go and get the next best thing that still works on the market today.
    All I need is some help from you guys : Which med out there in your opinion is still in production that can still be crushed and snorted by my aardvark. He is in bad shape and in chronic pain and like the other person in the post has no trouble getting pain meds because of his history with the chronic pain. Can anyone help?
    Im sorry if I am posting this in the wrong place , I am not trying to hyjack the thread , just trying to get a helpful answer.
     
  14. oxalot

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    My evil monkey likes the new generic 15's crush an snort. I have heard rumors of 45% bio-availability as opposed to 10% oral. Also there is the eating of a high fat meal with these that may increase BA to same. Don't know if either is true andd yeah, I'm lazy too, probably won't look it up. But these generics are great. BUT, don't run out before you get more. you'll regret it. instant withdrawal. not the usual 1-3 days. it hits in hours and hard.
     
  15. Tigey

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    @bumpie

    if you've got chronic pain issues and an opiate abuse habit, why not ask your doctor to prescribe things you can't abuse and then don't abuse them? You're asking for your pain to get worse with a boom and bust cycle and rising tolerance through chewing. Being in bad shape I'd suggest a brief detox - save money, increase effect on pain etc. Also, you're saying that you're struggling to get pain meds, so getting your habit under some control would let what you have go further.
     
  16. Mick Mouse

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    The bio-availability of almost any drug is greater when plugging than when used nasally and certainly than when consumed because of lack of first-pass extraction by the liver. Also, while the percentages between plugging and nasal use may be relatively close, the difference lies in surface area. When you plug, you are introducing the drug into a greater surface area-along with an increased number of blood vessels available for absorption-as compared to intra-nasal use, which has a relatively small surface area as compared to the anal cavity. Does that make more sense?

    Another way in which I have heard of is to chop the pills into powder, put in water, and wait 24 hours. Then, just drink the water. After filtering, of course! This only works if you are able to exhibit willpower and have the ability to wait 24 hours to get buzzed though.
     
  17. bumpie

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    Good advice, how about what is the next best thing to use??? Hell I've been on the opana 40ERs since they came out & I have no other experience with any other compound. Appreciate any help
     
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    The 20 E imprint pills are useless I read through the forums I could find here unless I'm missing the obvious. How do though's darn thing able to provide pain relief! I heard centrifuge the medication. Not sure of a sure way to plug, or, if it does have a higher BA than 10%

    curious_38 added 4 Minutes and 12 Seconds later...

    Withdrawal starts before the limited relief starts. No one I know wants to have to by a chemistry set just to figure out problem like this. I'm new to the site and am having trouble searching?
     
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  19. Mick Mouse

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    What exactly are you having trouble with in searching? You might want to check out our Newbie help group if you keep having difficulty, or you can PM me and I will try and help in any way possible. I find your post somewhat confusing, but I'll try here. There are really not many ways of plugging, so I am confused somewhat about your statement regarding a "sure" way. It's a 2 step procedure, insert and depress the plunger. Unless you are not "sure" if it is in or not, and if it is THAT loose, you have problems WAY beyond anything I can help with! lol! Plugging will have a higher availability than the traditional oral route, as it by-passes the first pass extraction process in the liver. I also do not think that many members have access to a proper centrifuge, so that tech is probably not worth exploring as much as some others might be. And "withdrawal starts before limited relief starts"? What is this in relation to?
     
  20. Bmrangers

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    Buddy was recently switched from 6-8 30 mg oxycodone a day to 2 20 mg Opana ER (very unfortunately they are "crush resistant"), as well as 3-4 10 mg Opana IR. He is informed of the conversion ratios. Apparently intranasally the oxymorphone is 5,6 some even say 7 to 8 times as strong as the oxycodone. When taken by mouth apparently it is only 2x the strength. Buddy is experiencing nowhere near the euphoric effects on the oxymorphone. Buddy has increased himself to 2 at a time of 20mg ER's and lining up 3 at a time of the 10mg IR's. It still does not take the same effect on buddy. Was his dr trying to lower his daily intake without coming right out and saying it? Any suggestions for buddy on how to give it a kick so he can have some fun. He needs his meds for pain from a horrible car accident. They are barely taking the edge off as is but at least there is no w/d. Buddy is well experienced in all forms of fun but is a fan of the opi's. He is also rx'd Xanax 1mg 3x a day but takes all 3 in the evening hoping to catch a nod somewhere. Buddy's looking for some insight on what to do w these crush resistant 20mg Opana ER's bc they do no justice or any other advice on how to have some more fun with what he's got in the meantime. Thanks friends~