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Combinations - (Use & Combo) 4 Opana (oxymorphone) ER 10mg and 4 Tramadol 50mg ~ What to do?

Discussion in 'Opiates & Opioids' started by Mr. Bob, Nov 22, 2009.

  1. Mr. Bob

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    SWIM has 4 Opana ER 10mg pills and 4 Tramadol 50mg. The Opanas are 8 sided and peach colored, with "10" imprinted on one side. The Tramadols are capsule shaped and white with "TR 50" imprinted on one side and "APO" on the other.

    SWIM thinks going through the Opanas first and tapering off with the Tramadol would be best but he is not so sure. His idea is ~

    The Opanas can be crushed into a fine powder and snorted, gradually sniffing more as the effect levels out so as not to over do it. Perhaps starting out with two 5mg lines and waiting half an hour to peak on whatever effect it may have. Then after the OPs are finished and the high begins to fade SWIM takes 4 antacids half an hour prior to beginning the Tramadol, which is taken orally.

    Should antacids be taken prior to snorting the Opana? SWIM knows it couldn't hurt but is not sure if it would be worth it.

    Plugging is not an option because of the previous days drinking, and for the same reason anything increasing the liver to work more (grapefruit juice) than the Opana and Tranmadol is going to is not an option for SWIM. SWIM has no alcohol in his system and has no intentions of drinking while on any perscription medications.

    Any thoughts on how to go about using the Opana ER and Tramadol?
     
  2. gmeziscool2354

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    Re: (Use & Combo) 4 Opana ER 10mg and 4 Tramadol 50mg ~ What to do?

    sounds like a plan somebody thought out very thoroughly. thats good. when i first read the thread tittle i was worried somebody was planning on taking 40mg's oxymorphone and 200 mg tramadol... which could be fatal (swim gf would probably have to be recictated if she took that combo, swim would live, but would be pissed cause he wasted 4-6 nice opiate highs)

    if swim had 4 of each, he'd probably get nice off the opana first, since he never sees that in his area. He'd hang on to the tramadols till he had some time, since tramadol easily lasts him 6 hours, even off of a small dose.

    FYI, tramadol is possible the best opiate for hangovers for this very reason. Swim had a 5/325 hydrocodone prescription a few months back and would take these while hungover. made him feel great, but the hangover came back stronger after they wore off. tramadol last much longer and has a very slow comedown, so its good for this

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    and Tram is mild enough that its not gonna completly mask the Hangover, so swim will know not to be irresponsible and make things worse one it wears off
     
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    Re: (Use & Combo) 4 Opana ER 10mg and 4 Tramadol 50mg ~ What to do?

    SWIM shares your use of Tram for hangovers, and has used cannabis in combo with it ~ works wonders and the synergy is just delightful.

    SWIM hasn't decided on exactly how to take them yet. Biding time searching the net till he has as much info as he can on Opana ERs ~ they are new to SWIM, which is the reason for more caution than usual.

    Thank SWIY for the thoughtful reply. :)
     
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    Re: (Use & Combo) 4 Opana ER 10mg and 4 Tramadol 50mg ~ What to do?

    Using Opana currently for pain control it appears that SWIY has a good cautious plan. SWIM sees no reason to deviate. Snorting the OM is a good way and does help the BA much better than eating them (10%~) Seen numbers of 30-50% for BA when snorting so other than plugging or IV that is likely the best bet. And Tramadol should help ease it down although it is unlikely that short term use of OM will cause too much grief unless SWIY already has a lot of previous history. Good luck and stay safe
     
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    Re: (Use & Combo) 4 Opana ER 10mg and 4 Tramadol 50mg ~ What to do?

    Swim would like to add, that the ER/XR version of oxymorphone is impossible for IV/rectal use.. (well near impossible, swim thinks theres a thread that does show a method, but can be dangerous) as the ER formulations will gel up upon contact with a water solution, so if swiy or anyone is thinking about trying IV/rectal use of an XR/ER formulation of oxymorphone, dont, because it will waste swiy pill and gel up on swiy!!

    xo

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    Re: (Use & Combo) 4 Opana ER 10mg and 4 Tramadol 50mg ~ What to do?

    Wow. SWIM removed the coating of one Opana and used a mortar and pestle to turn the pill into a powder. SWIM then sniffed about 1/4 of the powder. SWIM is pleasantly, and humbly surprised at the results.

    Even with SWIMS fairly strong tolerance the effects are pretty moderate, but this may be because he has had Opana ER (10mg) only once before, taken orally. That time he felt hardly anything at all despite eating only antacids for three hours prior to taking it. This time is completely different. A slight euphoria at first, warm numbness and one hell of an itchy nose. SWIM has noticed no gelling at all in his nose, just 'the drip' as usual. Its a nice buzz that can be hidden for his social activites tonight, as long as he doesn't scratch his nose too often.

    SWIM will chew the coating later as it still has some powder attached to it.

    Oxymorphone has had a powerful effect for such a low dose, even though SWIM has moderate tolerance for opiates.

    SWIM strongly recommends anyone unfamiliar with Oxymorphone to use caution. SWIM didn't expect to get such a strong effect from only 1/4 of a 10mg pill, and it could easily be very dangerous to sniff too much. Sniffing more than SWIM did might have had him nodding out. That is quite powerful for just 1/4 of 10mg.

    Stay safe everyone.
     
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    Re: (Use & Combo) 4 Opana ER 10mg and 4 Tramadol 50mg ~ What to do?

    There is a cross tolerance between all opiates, weather one's used a certain type before or not, if someone has a tolerance to overall opiates in general, the tolerance will ensue weather use is of oxycodone, oxymorphone, heroin, etc etc.

    This is just another supporting fact of the sheer strength of oxymorphone, and should keep swim, and others, on the side of caution when using other ROA with this particular drug, considering the 10% bioavailability with oral use, and such a high increase (of up to ~40%) when insufflated!!

    Just be safe, always err on the side of caution!

    xo

    Jesse
     
    Last edited: Nov 23, 2009
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    Re: (Use & Combo) 4 Opana ER 10mg and 4 Tramadol 50mg ~ What to do?

    SWIM wanted add (it was in several other posts in this forum as well) that ER's can be plugged...get an empty Fleet saline bottle, rinse all the saltwater out so its clean. Drop in ER tab and just cover with water. Then set it in a cool dark place where nobody will disturb for at least 12-24 hrs. Swiy does NOT want to stir, shake, agitate in any way as this will cause the gel to break up...just drop it in water..set it aside and leave it alone..Pill will swell 3, 4x larger and often (nicely too) will stay stuck to bottom, carefully transfer fluid into other empty fleet bottle and plug away...do NOT disturb the swelled up pill..it is loosely held together gel for the most part...one can also do the soak in some other container if only 1 fleet bottle around...but this method works very well. Any crushing, etc of the pill before water is added turns it into a jelly disaster for sure...although SWIM did manage to gently squeeze the blob so every last drop was extracted....honestly, SWIM had just as much good time by not messing with the "bones" at all...cheers!