Using drugs to escape the boredom of real life.

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  1. AceOvArts

    AceOvArts Gold Member

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    When I think about it, the only real reason I have ever done drugs is to ..
    1. Have a good time while out partying
    2. Peer pressure
    3. Finally to stave the boredom of life.

    Now obviously its easy to say "Get a life" go do something less boring etc. etc. but nowadays I am older, he don't go out much (well not ever really), there is no peer pressure (it was usually his choice anyway) so the only reason left is the boredom of normal life.
    I have a great life (from an outsiders point of view), a family with kids doing well in everything. A loving wife..great job, blah blah blahdy blah.
    But there is and has always been something in my head (so he told me) that keeps him from being fulfilled in his life (maybe a lack of natural endorphins).
    So this leads him nicely to taking drugs (all sorts, except crack or brown) basically the most fashionable thing at the time I guess.
    Now I am doing a fair old bit of cola, not vast amounts but a good eightball a week (sometimes more) and is bored with it, I think he would move onto harder opiates if they were openly available to him.
    Does anyone else feel this way ? I think this is the reason a lot of level headed people get into drugs, not because they are down and outs or have had a particularly hard life but are missing something that keeps them from feeling so god damn bored with life.

    I dunno if this a question, just a statement or what but I would like to hear from anyone in a similar boat.

    Thanks for listening to the rubbish that spews from me sometimes.

    -=AOA=-
     
  2. Nagognog2

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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    Sometime people use drugs because they fear they are boring and dull unless they are drunk or high. This is quite common actually. If this is the case, one is using the substance for an unrealistic reason - and this causes the addiction. The real problem can be addressed quickly and effectively. This doesn't mean the drugs/drink must be abandoned entirely and the person must end-up in a 12-step program. It just means one needs to get over thinking they are dull and uninteresting.
     
  3. Nicaine

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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    Boredom is a mood or state of mind, not a lack of interesting things to do. Next time You is bored, think through the situation... likely there are a crapload of things to do, but You doesn't feel like doing anything.

    I feel chronic boredom is a form of depression... there's no way to get past it except maybe antidepressants, therapy or something like that. Realizing what it really is can be a first step too.
     
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    That's got to be the worst thing I've read in the last week - and I read the New York Times! There are, indeed, ways to "get past it" that don't require drugs or psychology - for the majority of people. One may very well be between interests in life. Suddenly a new interest pops up. Could be learning forestry. Collecting stamps. Building cars.

    Being bored on occasion is certainly not grounds to jump for Dr. Dippy's jar of pills and replace boredom with yibbling on a couch. One will change the brain-chemistry for a good, long while. The other will replace boredom with lying on a couch and having some dope scribble on a pad of paper how bored you are - ask you how bored you are feeling - reinforce your feeling bored - and he buys himself a ski chalet in Switzerland.

    Give yourself a chance.
     
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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    LOL... we all have our opinions. I have had decent luck in the past with antidepressants (shorter course, not years & years). Psychotherapy recomm. was admittedly a bit off the wall, rarely seems to help with depressive symptoms.
    Trouble with boredom tho is that the most exciting thing in the world typically sounds boring to do. I would have trouble motivating himself to collect $100,000 lottery money when he's extremely bored with life... just seems BORING to mess around with money. Ya know? Just SWIM's personal experience, YMMV.
     
  6. Nagognog2

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    You wouldn't motivate to collect a check for $100,000? You don't need a shrink. You need a straight-jacket! Look Nicaine, not everyone (most) are that far down in the rinse-cycle of the mind. In the 40's one goes through hoops and loops. It's part of life. The author is in his 40's, You are. And so am I. It's always a bitch when things change and things that thrilled us become yawnable. We wish for solid ground. This is normal. Get used to it. Why do you think so many conservative nazis are in their 40's?

    This is not a reason to reach for the drugs or suck up to the shrink - all a decent shrink would say is: "Sucks, don't it?"

    Now try not to join the nazis and stay away from the pills and doctors. Soon enough you'll be trying to catch butterflies on Gilligan's Island. Trust me....there's a Hemioptera Vulvaceas!
     
  7. Nicaine

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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    OK, I'd probably collect it, but honest to g_d without much interest. Probably with a feeling of hope that maybe having the $$ to spend would spring me out of the psychological state of boredom.
    I didn't say I suffer from chronic/severe boredom myself, just that I have in the past. It's quite miserable. One will often do almost anything that seems to offer a chance of salvation from the resulting state of psychological deadness and meaninglessness.

    P.S. just chatting with you here, I really don't want to argue. The *only* point I was trying to make is that boredom is a psychological state often unrelated to how much there actually is to do... it's very deceptive. As with many psychological issues, understanding what's really going on in one's head is a major step toward 'recovery'.
     
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    Oh I know some people will do anything to break free of this cycle, and some of their methods don't work but, instead, perpetuate the situation. Why, you wouldn't believe what some people have done to break their cycles of addiction and boredom. I've seen some of the most hideous glimpses of bored people on the internet! Image a man in his 40's dancing...oh - it's too awful to say.

    Anyway - there are other ways to get through this without one resorting to drugs from a doctor. Or elsewhere to alleviate boredom.
     
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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    Take up Tai Chi or meditate Always works for swia. Swimmings fun too! ;) Interesting thread.
     
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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    In many cases I'd agree, but I did a crapload of clubbing in the 80s and frankly I'm a damn good dancer for a white guy :D. I can sing too, perfect vocal range for crooning pop love songs... (ladies, one at a time... one at a time now...) :p
     
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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    Using opiates to overcome life (on a regular basis) can RUIN it, as it has done with countless people. Imagine SWIM in rehab/prison with his family/job/etc all gone. I don't think that would be a more interesting life.

    Getting some interesting activity (growing plants, paint, photographing, writing poetry, etc etc.) can help. Maybe get some counseling?
     
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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    In SWIM's experience, in the end opiates tend to create precisely those things they originally helped the user escape from -- boredom among them, but also physical pain (from w/d's), difficulty sleeping, anxiety, etc.

    Boredom is a major one tho... ISE chronic opiate use, particularly pills and such, encourages the user to just sit around doing nothing (but feeling euphoria) until extreme boredom, depression and feelings of being trapped in an inescapable cycle become a way of life... it's like being in a sort of kinder/gentler hell. I have been there and would not like to go back. Unfortunately, heavy kratom use presents a lightweight but still unpleasant version that he's on the verge of falling back into.
     
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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life


    Next time try and keep your clothes on there, lil man :p
     
  14. AceOvArts

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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    I am one of those people that goes through depressive states, ups and downs like we all do but his are a little higher and lower. He has been prescribed anti-depressants until he realised that they were sort of like putting a band aid over a wound, it hides it, it doesn't heal it but it can help the healing process. Unfortunately in thinking this he now wont go to the doc unless he is in such a bad state of mind its time to listen to others. I think meditation and/or therapy are possible solutions, He always had an interest in meditation so that's a possible for sure. He always went headlong into things too, went on a health kick (so much so that he did body-building yadyaydyadya). He took a keen interest in growing plants (the therapeutic kind ;) and ended up cross breeding etc. etc. but now he had kids feels its a bit irresponsible to have that stuff around the house stinking up the place).
    I dunno, possible mid-life crisis ?...heheh
     
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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    Life is but a walking shadow. Drugs can certainly eliviate the boredom of life, but, as already mentioned, can lead to addiction and all the troubles that go with it.

    Sounds like you need a good hobby or challenge, maybe a hooker? What was your childhood dream?

    Maybe you are bored with the 9-5 life, with the wife, the job, the kids, the blah blah blah, not just life itself. Granted, this a tough life to leave behind in persuit of more endorphins, but maybe you dont have to leave it, just shake it up a whole bunch.

    Or set a goal. My wife and I, just the other day, decided that we want to get a sail boat after the kids are gone, and just spend the last of our days getting drunk and sailing around the equator. Will it ever really happen? Who knows, but it is something to look forward to.

    Anyways, just remember-Drugs aren't bad, but addiction is, and will fuck you over solid and take everything you have, including all the boring stuff.

    cheers
     
  16. ojos_de_brujo

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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    Swim's not a 40-year old man, but she would also advice setting new goals.
    In his twenties one has all these dreams: a place to live, a nice job, a family. If you have reached these goals, live tends to get boring. I don't remember which great writer once wrote: 'the worst thing that could happen to a person is that his dreams come true'. He said it more eloquently of course.
    I don't believe this saying is totally true, but finds it a quite interesting thought.
    Setting goals and enjoying your work to achieve them might be the way to go.
    Also, ' learning to enjoy the little things' -it's a huge cliché, I know- might help.

    And if You really thinks it's a problem of endorphines, jogging or running is good. Maybe You can go bungee-jumping, or basejumping, anything that will give a nice adrenalin rush.

    A lot of old clichés in this post, but hell, they work for Swim.
     
  17. Nagognog2

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    Yeah kid - classic mid-life crisis material. Go buy a red sports-car and tool on down the M1 blasting songs of your youth. Then go home. Park it. Hope the real kids don't steal it. And take up Yoga so you can kick yourself in your arse.

    But don't worry - this shit wears off pretty quick once it comes to a head. Soon you'll forget about being bored and go back the things you enjoy. Drugs may help a few things, but growing up isn't one of them. There is only one solution for that. Shall I say it and scare your pants off?

    DEATH!

    Now relax. You're doing fine.
     
  18. darkglobe

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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    Watch the film "Instinct" (Turteltaub, 1999).

    It certainly filled me with a true appreciation for merely existing.

    ~Dark
     
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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    How anyone can be bored when the Internet exists is beyond me. Get Bittorrent, start downloading a shitload of television shows and movies, install linux on your computer and learn it, find a subject you like on wikipedia and learn everything about it, find a couple of blogs that you enjoy and start reading them, find a porn fetish that you're really into, etc.
     
  20. knot

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    Re: Kicking the boredom of real life

    Sknot has the computer addiction and the other addiction that he indulges in once a week. Sknot is bored and single.