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Experiences - Very strong Kratom experience in a SWIM with no opiate tolerance

Discussion in 'Kratom' started by seaturtle, Oct 4, 2011.

  1. seaturtle

    seaturtle Titanium Member

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    SWIM decided to try Kratom for the first time, and ordered some bali powder which came in the mail very quickly. Fastest package SWIM has ever gotten. SWIM has no opiate tolerance, having only used Vicodin a few times (20 mg maximum) in the past. Those experiences were very enjoyable and taught SWIM what an opiate high was like.

    Anyways, SWIM took ~4 spoon fulls of it yesterday over the course of 30 minutes, the total package was 28 grams and SWIM is estimating he took in somewhere around 5 grams.

    Within 20 minutes (during dosing) SWIM started to get very relaxed. SWIM smokes alot of pot and smoked a bowl about an hour in to relax even further, since there was some weird jitteriness to the high. SWIM thinks about a half hour after that (memory is a little hazy) that he went to lie in bed (too sedated to even sit in a chair!), where SWIM nodded in and out of reality for about 3 hours. This was an extremely enjoyable experience, and the most intense opiate experience SWIM has had.

    SWIM then passed out at 7 pm (extremely early), still quite high. When SWIM walked around just before this to make some raman, SWIM's vision was blurry and overall SWIM was intoxicated. SWIM woke up at 5 am to puke, which sucked, but still felt quite good afterwards. SWIM then passed out again until 8:30 am. It's almost 24 hours since dosing and SWIM still feels very relaxed/out of it, I wouldn't be surprised if it's still in my system at significant levels.

    Anyways, SWIM will be taking less next time since it seems like even around 5 grams was overkill (not saying SWIM regrets it, SWIM loves to get super fucked up). Other SWIMs with no opiate tolerance should be very wary of the numbers posted around online, they make 5 grams sound like nothing.

    Also, SWIM is now aware just how powerful this drug is and will gladly space it out by at least a week, otherwise SWIM thinks he'd become a zombie. College is hard enough without my mu-opioid receptors sedating the crap out of me.
     
  2. ianzombie

    ianzombie Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Just be careful and get a scales.
    If the kratom you have is powdered as you say then i would estimate you took a lot more than 5 grams.

    When you say 4 spoon fulls what do you mean?
    Are you using a proper measuring spoon, and is it a teaspoon or tablespoon?

    On average ive found a leveled teaspoon of finely powdered kratom to be about 3.5 grams. So for of them would be about 14 grams. A dose this high for someone with no tollerence would probably be far too much and result in the experience you had.

    5 grams would probably be a good starting point, if you wanted a strong effect for the first time, but i dont think that is what you took from your discription.

    It is advisable to invest in a scale, they are inexpensive and will help you to accurately measure each dose so that you can find a dose that works best and more importantly so that you do not start to raise your tollerence by taking too much too soon.

    Make sure to leave a few days between doses to give your body time to get back to base, espicially when using high doses.
     
  3. seaturtle

    seaturtle Titanium Member

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    Yeah, SWIM agrees having a scale is a good idea instead of messing around with eyeballing it. SWIM was just using a spoon, not necessarily standardized or level. Next time SWIM uses Kratom SWIM will tell a friend with a scale to come over so SWIM can at least standardize the spoon measurements.

    SWIM has a 5 gram sample that hasn't been touched, and comparing it to the bag SWIM ate out of that day, there must be at least 20 grams in that bag (meaning SWIM took in less than 8).

    This of course is assuming the company weighed both bags out right, which may be a stretch for all SWIM knows.