I've posted very little on here. But here I am back when the chips seem to be down for a friend. So my neighbor started smoking spice after 3.5 years complete abstinence which went as well as you can imagine...turns out there were severe withdrawal symptoms after a few weeks use. My friend turned to kratom, being a former heroin addict, and pushed through any discomfort with pleasure without skipping a beat at work or home. Over a year later, Kratom use daily ever since and dose quadrupled his wife left him and gave him an ultimatum to get his life together and kick the Kratom as he had promised he would. A wreck and on a timeline my neighbor has been scrambling for answers and scouring the web. Withdrawal always sets in within 6 hours and intensely After hours. The previous months had my friend saving up supplements such as l-theanine, ashwagandha, tianeptine, l-tyrosine, Imodium, aleve, Tagamet, gummy vitamins and the like. Knowing there was a monster waiting. My neighbor doesn't handle withdrawal well...at all. Anything else, but not withdrawal. But the time had come. He also cannot feel a difference in symptoms between 30 grams of various strong Kratom per day, vs black tar heroin. Which is more than disappointing. So my friend took to the only option he felt was available and woke up this Saturday morning in usual withdrawal at 5 took his last dose and waited until noon to take 12 Imodium 30 minutes after two 200mg Tagamet (cimetidine). Some stomach pain, and obvious pending constipation built, but somehow my friend is okay. His legs will not stop moving. His anxiety is through the roof, but otherwise feels somewhat comfortable with some chills and strange impeded circulation problems. My friend feels manic. My friend is wondering what the community thinks if anything. He simply needed to get on a forum somewhere snd tell his situation becaus, withdrawal is ...withdrawal and I mean...fuck. you know? If anybody has more tips it would be greatly accepted and appreciated. Everybody is different, some posts say Imodium doesn't work some say it does. My friend honestly cannot tell what the hell is happening with his body and is scared shitless, except he can't shit....so I guess this is day 1. He has work Monday - Friday and is doing the best he can right now...thanks for reading.