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What are Speed made of EXACTLY and USUALLY

Discussion in 'Amphetamine' started by Davidbell, Jun 12, 2007.

  1. Davidbell

    Davidbell Silver Member

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    you know these pills wich all have little cute logo that goes from Pepsi, Coca-Cola, Shell, On Star*, Tweety etc... They are Stimulant pills for sure. But SWIM wait before calling them Speed,which stand for any type of 'Amphetamine'.

    The thing is, What type of Stimulant, or simply What do you really think are those stimulant pills usually made of ?

    Piperazines ? (Don't think so but maybe?)
    Methylphenidate? (Don't think so because Meth is much simpler-cheaper to produce and much more potent)
    Cocaine ? (Don't think so because they are sold at much lower price than Cocaine would be)
    Amphetamine (if so, what type: Sulfate, Base?)? (Don't think so because Meth is much simpler-cheaper to produce and much more potent)
    Methamphetamine (if so, what type: Sulfate, HDL?)?
    MDMA? (SWIM heard there is sometime, MDMA in your pill)
     
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  2. vantranist

    vantranist Silver Member

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    This site cannot ID pills here... theres no way of knowing whats in your pill even if we were able to actually ingest one of ur pills theres no way to know for sure whants in them let alone going by an internet Description of them.

    Speed on the street is usaully meth or another amphetmine.

    Judging by the average size of a pill of speed if it was pure cocaine it would not have much effects orally and if it did they would be too short to compare with speed, and thats if the pills was pure cocaine.

    MDMA has a much different feel than amphetmines SWIm thinks... if you have done both its easy to tell the difference between the two.

    If SWIM had to take a guess he would say meth howeve thats pure speculation, and if it is meth its probobly HCl... But what difference does it make swim cant tell much of a difference once its in the blood stream.

    Too SWIM Meth is meth once its in the brain, however the method of ingestion could change some aspects of the high.
     
  3. Davidbell

    Davidbell Silver Member

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    Swim heard that Meth is the easiest Amphetamine type to product. Why would speed pill contain other type of amphetamine than Meth ? The only reason in Swim's understanding would be some dealer using his own or other's prescribed med containing amphetamine such as Adderal or ritalin
     
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    vantranist Silver Member

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    Bingo...

    SWIMS guess was meth and if it is an amphetmine it probably is meth.

    However that doesnt mean that it cant be somthing else.

    Possibly prescription, or mabye whoever made thos pills had a load of P2NP or somthing laying around or somthing used in to make other amhpetmine.

    Who knows could be anything.
     
  5. Davidbell

    Davidbell Silver Member

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    What is P2NP , been searching for it on web and forum but could not find much explanation, except that it is said to be synthetised to produce meth...
     
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    It can be used to syth meth, and a number of other things... THeres a picture guide in making amph that uses P2NP swim belives.

    P2NP tho is not attainable by anyhting OTC you would need to self synth that.

    if u were making meth u would substitute PFed for P2NP i belive.
     
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    Davidbell Silver Member

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    Then, Swim see no point of using P2NP rather than PE. Since PE can be sold OTC as Sudafed or else.... Since swim has no prescription to get P2NP
     
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    P2NP isnt any medicine i belive its actually illigal to posses. If u want it ur gonna have to make it yourself.

    The reasons one might use P2NP is becuase latlely the Pfed bans have been a bitch and things like that, also its used in MDMA quite a lot.
     
  9. Davidbell

    Davidbell Silver Member

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    OK great to know. SWIM appreciate and is learning so much from you. Wish SWIM could give you a more powerful rep status :)