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What are the effects of "Ratio-Emtec-30"

Discussion in 'Codeine' started by MinorityReport, Dec 14, 2006.

  1. MinorityReport

    MinorityReport Newbie

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    Really swim wants to know what would the effects and what would happen if he took a drug called "ratio-emtec-30" he found in his bathroom. Thank you already
     
  2. csharpprogrammer

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    ratio-emtec-30 is a pill containing 30 mg codeine phosphate and 300 mg acetaminophen. It will have similiar effects to oxycodone, hydrocodone and the other opiates but a little less intense. A good starting dosage would probably be around 60 mg, although SWIM would take 90-120 mg for a nice opiate buzz.
     
  3. csharpprogrammer

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    Tell SWIY to be careful with high dosages of this medication because it contains acetaminophen. SWIM thinks the CWE (cold water extraction) would work well on this drug.
     
  4. MinorityReport

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    So half a pill would be correct? And what if the pill bottle says like handed 2005/blabla and trash on 2006 and the date already passed
     
  5. Abrad

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    Half of a pill containing 30mg of codeine would probably not be sufficient for recreational use. SWIM recommends performing a CWE on 2 pills and takes the 60mg of codeine. This is a low dose but it is best to check if SWIY has a hypersensitivity or allergy to codeine, After this SWIY can take a dose of 100-140mg, this should get SWIY high provided he has no opiate tolerance.

    Remember, always use the CWE method when dealing with pills containing APAP/paracetamol.
     
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  6. csharpprogrammer

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    SWIY would be fine taking two pills without doing the CWE, one Vicodin ES pill contains 750 mg of acetaminophen, which would be more than two of SWIY's pills.
     
  7. csharpprogrammer

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    And to answer SWIY's question about the expiration date: the drugs should still be pretty effective, as time goes on, the potency slowy decreases.
     
  8. darkglobe

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    REMEMBER: The effect which and out-of-date drug has cannot be guaranteed.

    Chances are you'll be fine. SWIM takes 30/500 codeine/paracetamol tablets for his (genuine) pain relief. When SWIM wants to get a buzz outta it, he performs CWE on 10 pills. This would absolutely NOT be safe for one who does not have a tolerance to opiates.
     
  9. mickenator

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    I think the best thing would be to do a CWE on 2 pils and drink the liquid if after an hour no effect is felt then try doing a CWE on another 2 pills, remember to do a CWE if swiy is thinking of doing more than 2 pills as to remove the APAP.
     
  10. Forthesevenlakes

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    Remember though that SWIY will lose some product in the CWE process...SWIM might even use 3 pills to extract, and then drink MOST (but not all) of the solution slowly, giving it time to take effect before deciding if he would use more.
     
  11. darkglobe

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    As above, don't dive in head-first if you've not done it before.

    Time for some shameless self-promotion here, but I've recently written out some tips for a nice, efficient CWE. God knows what thread it's in I don't remember.

    It's definitely good to start low as forthesevenlakes stated. SWIM uses UK Co-Codamol (30/500) pills and would never even consider taking more than two without performing a CWE. You see, SWIM's liver is already phucked from....
    ...Ooh, 2 years of drinking. Lol. :D
     
  12. d0wn3r

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    Correct Duff if they're wrong, but they think that the harm in taking a drug like Emtec (or any codeine/Acetamenophin compound) lies in the amount of abuse exhibited by the individual in question.
    In other words, if you take a couple of these in one day (Duff would think) SWIY would be fine. However, if SWIY takes a few a day for a month or two... complications could arise.
    Of course, this also applies to SWIY's who have the tendency to take handfuls of pills instead of careful, responsible doses; 6 or 7 in a day could be harmful, but Duff thinks that one or two in a day might be fine so long as the use is occasional only.

    Any thoughts from other SWIMS?

    Duff has access to some of these pills also, so they would like to know the opinions of other Swims concerning this theory.
     
  13. RoboCodeine7610

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    Why would you answer a 2 year old post? Anyways, what the hell:

    a CWE for 900mg of acetaminophen/paracetamol?
    Please, don't even think about it.Two regular 500mg pills have 1g of paracetamol in it, and that's the recommended dosage.
    You're perfectly fine taking 3 at a time 300x3=900mg.
    If you took more you'd probably be fine, but 3 pills are still inside of the recommended paracetamol dosage.
    5 pills (1.5g) is still safe if not done often, like once a week tops.
    Personally, I've taken 4g at a time without any symptoms of poisoning, but do not take this as safe.4g is a really high dose and should never be taken at once.
    Robo
     
  14. TheNewLeft

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    i never understood why people do CWE on anything less than 4 pills.

    3 Tylenol 3s....is about 900mg of acetaminophen which is still less than 2 extra-strength tylenol.
     
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    Swim agrees with swiyrobocodeine the amout of water/codeine lost by trying to extract anything less than 10 pills would be crazy,although you can cary out a mini c.w.e by straining solution through a seive/tea strainer this wont remove all the crap but in can remove 70-80% with minimun codeine loss,swim sometimes does this as a pre-wash helps speed up the filtering process.
    whilst were on the subject swim is going to experiment tonight with "industrial paint filters" 190 microns will post results.
     
  16. d0wn3r

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    Swim has been taking a few of these lately (interspersed with the Tecnal C 1/4's). While Swim enjoys the feeling of Tecnal more than Emtec (probably due to the Butalbitol), Swim has no choice but to take emtecs at the moment (due to not being able to pay for his Tecnal C prescription until TGIF, which is gay:mad:).
    So, having taken some Emtec to relieve the stress, I'll give a description of how I feel:
    (The effects Swim feels now may be altered slightly by Gabapentin, which was recently prescribed him also, but Swim isn't sure:)

    Codeine takes the (emotional) pain away, numbing feelings of depression. Swim thinks that depressants should be used to treat depression, as they seem to be effective. (not to mention, the acetamenophin in the Emtec pills (while usually unwelcome) are doing wonders for Swim's headache right about now ..... which may or may not have been a manifestation of codeine withdrawal, lol).
    Swim hasn't been taking large doses of this, in fact, far from it. Swim takes only a couple of these a day (for the past two days only), which is under the redommended dose of "1 every 4 hours, or as needed for pain."
    Swim prefers the Butalbitol/Codeine compounds much more, but the overall effects of Emtec are not unpleasurable by any means (providing you don't lose your liver that is;)).
    Swim is actually a bit too high to be able to talk coherently, so he makes an end to this discourse.

    Bottom line: if you have access to these pills, go ahead and take them as long as you don't overdo the recommended dosage. If you plan on getting extremely high, or have built up a high tolerance to Codeine, use CWE; otherwise, one could drop a few in a day with little to no harm done.

    One thing Swim is unclear on is whether or not to eat something when you take this drug; swim has heard that Codeine is best taken on an empty stomach, but then again, he has also heard that its best to eat something beforehand so as to reduce the chance of nausea. Swim is still experimenting to figure out what's what.