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Drug info - What Kratom caps/pills should I get? (I love Maeng Da)

Discussion in 'Kratom' started by location, Dec 14, 2011.

  1. location

    location Newbie

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    I discovered some old Maeng Da Kratom caps I had in a drawer. I had tried Kratom powder before but I'd rather die than put up with the taste. So I took the caps.

    I am on Lyrica 300mg daily, which probably potentiated the Kratom caps further. I took 4 standard size caps and felt sweet opiate bliss for several hours.

    Hour 1: nothing
    Hour 2: coming up
    Hour 3-6: peak, rolling quite hard, similar to 2mg oxycodone, which is insane
    Hour 6-8: coming down

    Then I would go to bed, wake up and STILL feel a faint effect going!

    This got me interested in Kratom all over again. I saw there are pressed pills now, and a brand called PEP.

    Those who have experience with Kratom, what is the strongest I can get:
    - Maeng Da Kratom
    - Other strain, like Thai
    - PEP
    - 25x Kratom extract (I wonder if the extracts really are as concentrated as they claim)
    - Other (open to suggestions)

    I want to order some caps soon.

    Thank you
     
  2. ianzombie

    ianzombie Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Caps are terrible IMO.
    If it took you 2 hours to feel it then thats insane.
    What other methods have you tried?

    If you take kratom on an empty stomach by either mixing it it into some juice or some sauce then it should be felt within 30 minutes.
    If you make kratom tea by boiling it for 15 minutes and straining out the powder it should be felt within 15 minutes.

    There are many ways to mask the taste.

    Why dont you read some of the many thread here where people have discussed the different strains or their favorite strains, you might come across something that sounds good.

    Maeng da, when bought from a good vendor can be good, but most vendors will just label any thai kratom and hike up the price. Ive never noticed much of a potency difference from what is being sold as Maeng Da from the so called 'reputible' vendors in the US.

    Shop around untill you find something You likem because what others like might not be your thing.

    Personally i love green malay, but a lot of people prefare basic bali (borneo)

    Avoid extracts, they are over priced and usually a waste. Plain leaf offers more.

    Find a vendor who specialises in kratom and then do a search to find if you can see any reviews of their products on any of the many kratom forums.
    For the best, freshest kratom at the best price buy from the source, or find a vendor who buys direct from a vendor at the source.

    Other than that do some more research, your questions have been asked and answered many times over.

    Remember that kratom can be addictive, you should leave a few days between doses and keep your doses as small as possible. Extracts will raise a persons tollerence even faster and ruin the experience eventually.
     
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    location Newbie

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    Thank you for the reply. Not two hours to feel it, just one hour. Another hour to reach peak.

    I tried several ways to mask the taste and I could not succeed. Why are caps bad?

    I'v tried extract in the past and I agree. While It takes a lot less of it to feel an effect, I've found it doesn't last long. I want to find a good reputable source to order from. Is asking people to PM me their favorite source against the rules since Kratom is not illegal?

    I wanted someone who has tried a lot of different strain to tell me which is stronger in effect - Bali, Maeng Da, Malay, etc.
     
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    ianzombie Platinum Member & Advisor

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    It is against the rules, i recomend you read them again if you are unsure about them because sending messages like that will get you banned, you dont want that.

    I dont like caps because there is no guarantee they will disolve at the same time, an i like to feel my kratom hit all at once.
    Tea is my favorite method for the initial hit. The alkaloids are extracted into the water and can be absorbed fast. The effects dont last as long as with eating the powder but that does not bother me.

    The taste and texture can be a problem for some.
    I find mixing my regular dose, around 8 grams into a small amount of jam, pesto, apple sauce and then eating a spoon full at a time and taking a mouthfull of water to swallow it, masks the taste and texture well.

    Some people can toss and wash the powder with no problems, i could initially but once you have gagged a couple of times it becomes harder to do it without expecting to gag, which usually leads to gagging.

    For a while i liked to mix the powder into a thick fruit smoothie and drink that, that worked well for a while too.

    Like ive already said about the strains, read the threads, different people think different strains are better.
    Anyway, what you buy as maeng da from one vendor might not be half as strong as what another vendor sells as maeng da.

    I have found green malay to be the most potent strain, but only from the vendor i use. Ive tried it from other vendors and it was not very potent.

    Even if you find a good vendor and stick to a strain you like, the potency can rise and fall depending on the time of year and how much sun the trees are getting.

    There is no simple answer. Shop around, try sample packs of different strains, find what you like.