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Health - Which is safer MDMA or Cocaine?

Discussion in 'Ecstasy & MDMA' started by cheesefan, Apr 14, 2009.

  1. cheesefan

    cheesefan Newbie

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    So a friend of mine is thinking of trying MDMA for the first time. He is going to use the pure powder form. He weighs about 230 pounds and has high blood pressure. He is always nervous about trying new drugs for this reason, but he has been using cocaine lately and although his pressure rises and heart races, he seems fine and never has problems.

    So my question is which is safer and less stress on your body and heart MDMA or cocaine? I know one is a amphetamine and one is a stimulant but which is more deadly?

    If hes been doing cocaine lately without problems, is it safe to say the MDMA wont make him stroke or anything like that?

    Thanks
     
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  2. Boca Bitch

    Boca Bitch Newbie

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    Cocaine is more dangerous than MDMA, in terms of short-term damage, long-term damage, and addictive potential.
     
  3. dredknot

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    I'm no expert, but cocaine is the second most addictive and most harmfull drug out there, second only to heroin. I'm sure your friend will be fine on pills.
     
  4. buzzman

    buzzman Silver Member

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    Its really depends on the dosage.

    Though cocaine tends to be a much more destructive drug for some people due to its addictive nature.
     
  5. RaverHippie

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    MDMA is less of a stress on the circulatory system than cocaine.
     
  6. RedBaron

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    If Swiys friend is doing coke then he should be fine with mdma for sure. Especially since You is getting the purer powder form where it will be much less of a stress on the heart and inner functions than coke or a compressed xtc tab.
     
  7. Lady Codone

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    Cocaine isn't an amphetamine. It's a stimulant like the amphetamines, but is one of many alkaloids in the coca plant. It's said to be worse for the heart than even meth, due to its anesthetizing qualities. It's not very physically addictive, but is EXTREMELY psychologically addictive and can make You feel like shit when coming down (not the same as physical addiction).

    MDMA, when in its pure form, is relatively harmless provided youou stays hydrated and doesn't get overheated. With high blood pressure, it's prolly not the best idea to overexert youourself on ANY drug, especially ones with stimulant properties. MDMA has some neurological toxicity to serotonin receptors (suspected), but isn't overly hard on the cardiovascular system and other organs. The main danger with MDMA is taking something that's NOT MDMA, getting overheated, dehydrated, or OD'ing on too high a dose. But it's definitely "better" for You than cocaine.

    Might be a good idea to get a hold of some bp meds like Atenolol/Propanolol just in case. Xanax, Valium, and other benzos are also good for when things get too intense.
     
  8. cannabis-sam

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    He could start with a low, dose, MDMA does increase blood pressure, so to advise doing it can't be good. I would reccomend speaking to your doctor about it.

    If he does decide to do it regardless he shouldn't do it in very high doses as, from what I understand, the stimulant effects increase with dose.
     
  9. cheesefan

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    Thanks for the replies. A lot of you seem to think I am asking about which is more addictive and worse to get into. But I clearly stated
    "which is safer and less stress on your body and heart MDMA or cocaine?"
    I ( and most of the world) know cocaines addiction potential.

    I am only concerned about the bodily harm, mainly heart.

    Thanks
     
  10. rxbandit

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    Both in moderation will not cause lasting bodily harm. Cocaine has caused irregular heartbeats for swirx. MDMA increases blood pressure I believe as well as muscle tension, some residual soreness of face muscles and teeth is likely.

    Again purity is the real decider of how dangerous a drug is, as well as dosage. If purity is good and discretion is used on dosage You will be fine.

    Do you have a medical condition that would make You worried about the heart issue?
     
  11. cheesefan

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    You has high blood pressure and thats why he is concerned

    cheesefan added 0 Minutes and 11 Seconds later...

    and is overweight
     
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  12. DiiZZy_D

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    Actually the most addictive drug is Tobbacco with 95% of users being addicted, compared to 30% with cocaine, and 45% with heroine.

    The diffrence with cocaine and xtc, is that cocain will increase ur heartrate for 15-30 minutes, wheras rolls increse ur heartrate for about 3-6 hrs... i dunno if it matters in ur friends case but its definatly somthing to think of
     
  13. yabbi

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    So he SHOULD be concerned! The first issue is the best reason *not* to do amphetamine like drugs.... (or any drugs)
     
  14. thegooddr

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    cheesefan me good man have a look at "is alcohol worse than ecstasy" documentary, swim tryed to upload it to videos but the section is closed. its all over the net anyway.
    any how its a recap of the uk's 20 most dangerous drugs in 2008. mdma came in at no. 18 and coke no. 2 (alcohol no. 5) and swims sure everyone is aware of the damage that coke and alcohol when mixed (cocaethylene) may cause to the heart.
    but to answer swiys question pure mdma is a lot easyer on the heart than cocaine.
    hope this helps you make the right choice.
     
  15. Dr. Satan

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    TheGoodDr Brought some good precisions.

    Here is what's possible to find on the long-term effects:

    Cocaine

    Different routes of cocaine administration can produce different adverse effects. Regularly snorting cocaine, for example, can lead to loss of sense of smell, nosebleeds, problems with swallowing, hoarseness, and an overall irritation of the nasal septum, which could result in a chronically inflamed, runny nose. Ingested cocaine can cause severe bowel gangrene, due to reduced blood flow.
    Persons who inject cocaine have puncture marks called “tracks” most commonly in their forearms, and may experience allergic reactions.Many chronic cocaine users lose their appetite and experience significant weight loss and malnourishment.
    One of the worst things is cocaine's strong addictif power.

    MDMA

    There is growing evidence of a permanent neurologic injury related to MDMA use. The long-term effects of MDMA are related to damage to/depletion of the serotonergic nerve terminals themselves. To date the deficits appear to be related to memory function.
    Some other neurologic effects like: confusion, agitation, hallucinations, seizures, hypotension, hepatotoxicity and liver failure.
    The MDMA has a much less important addictif power.
     
  16. benzochap

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    Neither are safe and it more depends on what junk has been added to the respective narcotics as well. Either way someone with a dodgy ticker or HBP would do better to avoid these sorts of drugs anyway.
     
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    I personally think Cocaine is a much more destructive drug than MDMA but again it all depends on the purity of the pill.
     
  18. toppalini

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    They're both really easy to OD on if highly pure. MDMA is much more neurotoxic. Cocaine has a greater potential to be addictive and cause compulsive use and cravings. But it's much safer for the brain. The MDMA high is way more obvious than the high from cocaine unless you're smoking/shooting it.

    The entire high of powder cocaine is just wanting more cocaine and MDMA gets you really high but it's super bad for you and usually fake or cut (like cocaine)
     
  19. Ghetto_Chem

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    I'd say cocaine is worst. I've seen the short term and long term effects of both on people who've abused them, as well on myself, and I feel MDMA is safer. Both of them change a persons personality, one makes people more empathetic and the other makes people more egotistical.

    Plus cocaine has the levamisole issue. In my area at least MDMA is cheaper now and much more pure. Not that the cocaine is bad around here but still not as pure as the clear shards floating about. I'd say in most places in the world, cocaine is less pure than MDMA.

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