Which RC is most like XTC pills

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  1. NoWorldOrder

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    I have ordered several different kinds of RC's from a good online supplier in Hong Kong. I have been hoping that I might find one that is like XTC (I don't mean MDMA, I mean hard pressed XTC pills) I am tired of this trial and error method so I am asking for help. If any one has an experience with a Research Chemical that was simmilar to XTC please post that info here. Please include the real (TiHKAL, PiHKAL) name of the Research Chemical and the amounttaken as well as your approx. weight and what specific aspect of XTC it resembled i.e. empathy, heart racing rush, sexual performance enhancment, creative energy, euphoria. ........ thanks
     
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    but mdma is what is known as xtc in 90% of all cases.
    i think that the closest analogues of mdma are the ones with the most similar effects. for this reason you dont need to work through tihkal. take a look at mbdb (aka methyl-j) or methylone, for example.
    i only tried mbdb some times, ~200mg gave a nice rush comparable with xtc.
     
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    Thank you for the information. I haven't tried either of those drugs yet but I will soon. What I ment about X pills is that they are different from pure mdma gell caps because they have other drugs mixed in like speed.
     
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    i recommend methylone.
    I think that it tries once, and you may mix 4FMP if it is not satisfactory.
     
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    Thank you for your help. I willtry methylone, but I have never heard of 4FMP...what is it...does it have another name?
     
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    I have just received and tried 5-Meo-AMT and so far it is the closest thing to XTC pills that I've tried yet, but it didn't have that spedy rush, so I'm still looking.
     
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    Sorry, I forgot to include the spec.s: I doses 5mgs of 5-meo-AMT and I weigh approx. 155 lbs. The trip lasted 10 hours with 7 hours of peak, and it had all the aspects of XTC that I origanly mentioned except for the heart racing rush.
     
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    the nearest rcs ive found to be anything like x are :- 2C-I ,2C-T-7 and MBDB/BDB they are not exactly the same cause but they have the inner feeling you get form the x buzz not the complete package with euphoric rushes and love up feelings,the nearset would have to be methyl-j or j but the doeses are much higher than real MDMA lowest doeses for MBDB is 180 and its quite a mild high..check online version of phikal at erowid Edited by: dr ACE
     
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    This product contains a high content of methylone

    Reliable suppliers are discussed in the sources forum.
     
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    I think that we are really talking about enactogens? In this class are
    perhaps methylone, MDDB, (and MEM, MDA etc) rather than psychedelics.
     
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    ecstasy is really the best of its "category" .. if you want the ecstasy experience just stick with ecstasy .
     
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    I've found that a combination of IAP and amphetamine does a good job of reproducing an MDA type effect.


    IAP is good for causing serotonin efflux, but doesnt do much for the dopamine efflux that the MDxx drugs cause, but that's easilyfixed by the addition of amphetamine. The best ratio (w/w) seems to be 30mg of IAP to 20mg of amphetamine (even produces the unique visual effects that occur with MDA)
     
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    The problem with 'ecstasy' is that, as everyone says (see Shulgin,
    MDMA.net, etc) is that the euphoria and 'opening' feeling that its
    gives you the first few times soon fades to be replaced by a more
    'speedy' high, often followed by a very uncomfortable 'hangover'
    (somewhat like that amphetamines give you).



    My advice-- look for variety and new experiences. Both amphetamines and
    MDMA can lead you to a real mental impasse which is not beneficial to
    you.
     
  14. NoWorldOrder

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    Thank you all for the help so far. I should clarify my reason for asking the initial question:


    I am in a part of the world where illegal drugs such as XTC pills are very hard to come by, so I am looking for legal/semi-legal alternatives that I can order on-line that will give me the same/similar high as XTC pills (not pure MDMA gell caps, the dirty pills that are cut with speed and other fun stuff)
     
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    Explosion. Use the search engine to find out more. See the sources forum for suppliers.
     
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    Explosion's sound neat :)
     
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    How many mg of Methylone do you need to have the same affect of EXplosions?
     
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    Nevermind I used the search button and its 280MG...sorry for wasted posts..
     
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    4ace-dipt and 5meo-dipt at lowlevels 10mg has entactogenicqualities alltheir ownsimilar to x but unique Edited by: dr ACE
     
  20. NoWorldOrder

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    Yes, Alpha is right about Explosion (Methaylone).Explosion is the closest thing I have found to date that matchesXTC pills. I have posted a trip report in the Research Chemical thread.
     
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