Other - Why Do Amanita Mushrooms Attract Flies/Maggots?

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  1. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    A friend of mine went hunting for Amanita muscarias and came back with a bunch, dried them and it turned out that the had little worms in them. Not in one, but in all. It seems they are all lost. Anyone know if he can get rid of them and safe some fly agarics?
     
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    Amanitas and Flies

    Apparently flies are attracted to amanitas... which is kind of interesting
    since ibotenic acid used to be used as fly "killer". Tons of people just dry
    them out and eat them anyway, maggots and all... the maggots themselves
    aren't poisonous (I'd be more worried about bacteria from their shit
    than anything). So I guess the general consensus on it depends on
    whether or not you mind a little extra protein with your mushrooms...
    Way to nasty for me...

    This probably won't help because the mushrooms are already dried, but
    blowing into the gills supposedly works to make them leave. And
    commercial growers use CO2 to get rid of gross little bugs (don't know
    how exactly it works though).
     
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  3. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    Does anyone know which compound in amanita muscaria attracts flies to FlyAgaric?
     
  4. Ninja Master

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    alfa, its a fungus. it attracts gnats flys and all kinds of shit
    naturaly. the "strong" fly killer must be so low in concentration
    that it wont kill flys. infact muscaria does nothing untill mixed
    with milk. i have an idea that the souring milk attracts the flys
    and kills them due to drowning. i think the fly story is just a
    heap of shit honestly. flys love muscaria, just like i do!
    buzz buzz[​IMG]
     
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    Flies and Muscarine Alkaloids

    This is from this link: http://waynesword.palomar.edu/chemid2.htm

    10. Muscarine Alkaloids: Single carbon ring
    containing oxygen and one nitrogen (N). This group of alkaloids includes
    muscimol (sometimes spelled muscimole), which is derived from ibotenic acid--an
    amino acid. Muscimol is found in the bright red fly agaric mushroom (Amanita
    muscaria
    ), so named because of its toxicity to flies. In Europe the
    mushrooms were reportedly left in open dishes to kill flies; however, according
    to some authorities, the flies are merely stunned or stupefied by the toxin, and
    may even regain control and fly away. Although it is poisonous to humans, there
    are other species of Amanita that are much more dangerous and are
    potentially lethal if ingested. Some of these dangerously poisonous species are
    death cap (A. phalloides), death angel (A. ocreata), and panther
    amanita (A. pantherina).
     
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  6. allenadale

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    I found that removing the stem before drying solves the fly problem. It also speeds up the drying process. And there is no Ibotenic acid or muscimol in the stem.

    The alkaloids are concentrated under the brightly colored skin of the caps. Swim says you can even carve out the gills of mushrooms before drying them, as they don't carry any payload. This will also help the caps to dry quicker.