why wont docs prescribe me something?

Discussion in 'Opiates & Opioids' started by daveman, Sep 29, 2005.

  1. daveman

    daveman Silver Member

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    ive been going to the doc for a long time, ive been to a regular doc, a pain specialist, taken x-rays, MRI scans, novicane shots in my back, chiropractor, and none of it has seemed to work besides painkillers and the novicane shot in my back. and i dont want to be stuck with a needle every day. all my pain stems from 4 car accidents and/or bending over the engine bay of a car wrenching on it. Still my pain specialist doc wont give me anything, not even codiene, vicodin, nothing. Is it because im only 19 years old? do they descriminate that much by age? Im getting quite fed up of being in pain when i awake each day. I think i need to goto a different pain specialist and tell him this story and maybe then i'll get what im seeking.
     
  2. Red_Baran

    Red_Baran Silver Member

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    man im in the same battle, i have been in many car wrecks, and i have done many bad things to my back but im not going to get in to all of them, but i have the same problem none of the docs i go to want to prescribe me anything, a few times i have gone toa walk in clinicand i have gotten pain killers, only got like 30 7.5 hydro (200$ bill later). but i think it might be an age thing im also 19 i think docs don’t want to get young people addicted to pain killers or they think that were always going to use them for rec reasons [​IMG]<?:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" />
     
  3. daveman

    daveman Silver Member

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    whats this walk in clinic youre talking about? where might ifind that?
     
  4. Red_Baran

    Red_Baran Silver Member

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    walk in clinics just seem to be doc's who perscribe what you want to get you out of there asap


    i couldnt really tell you were to find them, not even really sure what they would be listed in phone book as. i found them through some firends sorry man


    If i were you,i would look in to online pharm's and order your self some Tramadol its unscheduled pain killer that might help and its pretty easy to get
     
  5. umich

    umich Newbie

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    You can order tramadol online without a prescription?
     
  6. Red_Baran

    Red_Baran Silver Member

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    yes at almost any IOP (International Online Pharmacy), email source, ROP (Record Online Pharmacy) or NROP (No Record Online Pharmacy)


    do a little research its not hard to find at all
     
  7. Pinkavvy

    Pinkavvy Platinum Member & Advisor

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    If you ask for painpills you usually will not get them. Many docters are getting into paradigms of other forms of pain theropy instead of prescribing pain pills; so you may just need a new doctor.

    When making a new relationship with a doctor, talk about your quality of life. Talk about how you can barely make it through the day with excessive pain. explain how many accidents you've been in and all the physical theropy you've tried. but don't under any circumstance ASK for pain pills. When you first are interviewed by most doctors you are asked if you are on any other medication. when asked this, explain that you are on 10 ibuprofin and 10 acetominophin pills each day. (don't say you are taking any prescription pain pills, don't bring it up. explaining that you are taking all these over the counter pain pills shows you are in desperate pain and not looking for a high. it also gives them REASON to prescribe something stronger, cause no doctor wants to see somebody pump that much acetominophin through their liver.) When the doctor asks if you have any allergies, say you are allergic to codiene. (even if it's never showed that in your medical history in the past. if they question you about this allergy, explain that the last time you had codiene cough syrup or T3 that it made you itch and break out.) by being allergic to codiene, you've already skipped the traditional 'first step' of pain management, which is often to prescribe codiene and see how that goes. show real concern about the cause of the pain, and a resolution, not just a quick fix. these traits will usually get a docter to start you on a pain management program at the hydrocodone level. don't ask for anything stronger, even if you know you need something stronger. give it a try. tell them thank you and enjoy your vicodins/norco's or whatever type of hydrocodone he prescribed you. they'll usually tell you to call them in a few weeks, or even schedule you for a follow up the next month right away. give it at least a couple weeks and go into a followup (call in a couple weeks if not already scheduled for one) and explain that it helps a little during the day, but you still find yourself taking alot of tylenol or ibuprofin all day long. tell them that you usually have to take 2 plus a few tylenol by the evening becuase being up all day just destroys you and you're in so much pain by later in the day that you are having trouble making it through the whole day. the doctor will usually take you to the next level of a combonation of hydrocodones during the day and oxycodones for the evening. (usually percocet or generic oxycodone.) continue with this path, trying the next level, but still not good enough. eventually you will be to the level of pain magagement that you need/want to be at. remember NEVER ask for pain pills. NEVER ask for more then 1 month supply per month. NEVER ask for stronger pain pills. Let the progession happen. Doctors are so worried about getting in trouble for causing pain pill addiction that if you show any sign of WANTING pain pills, you will be taken off the program.
     
  8. smilla

    smilla Newbie

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    so so true....very wise of you pinkavvy, deff know what your talking about, very good advice i might say
     
  9. NeedleInTheHay

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    Bravo pinkavvy, VERY valuable information. I have found that the
    "never ask" policy is the only way to go. You do have to lead
    them in the right direction, but just give the doctor what information
    he/she needs to come to their own conclusion about what to give
    you. They need to feel like they decided what you need, not
    you. If you suggest something, chances are you'll never see
    it. Doctors are in a tough spot in this backwards country.
    All scheduled narcotics are watched closely and if one doc is seen as
    being "too generous" with their prescriptions they will get a
    not-so-friendly visit from everyones favorite pork products
    (d...e...a...?). Most good docs know how to deal with those
    problems, though, and more importantly WHEN to risk it at all. If
    you are truly in need a good doctor will see this and do what it takes
    to get you well.
     
  10. unico_walker

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    Don't ask them to step you down a level either.

    Someone I know was on fentynal patches legitamitely, shes not a
    recreational user. She didn't like the constant opiate haze and tried
    stopping the patches herself but the pain and withdrawl were terrible.

    She asked her physician at her monthly appointment to move her to
    something less strong but still strong enough for her pain, told him
    she hated the haze and addiction.

    The physician dropped her right there, told her he wouldn't prescribe anything and she needed to check herself into rehab.

    Three sleepless nights and hellish days later I got her some oxy and
    she was ok til she got to a new physician and she is now on a regimen
    of dialudad.



    I told her she should have sued, the fucking bastard got her addicted
    to fentynal and when she told him he dropped her like a hot potato. [​IMG] Fuck the USA, land of the imprisoned.
     
  11. daveman

    daveman Silver Member

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    yeah, i dont know if saying you take so many asprins or tylenol a day would work too well, the doc may think that youre trying to look for a "cure all pill" or painkillers. i complained about them not helping me and i stopped taking them because they made me sleepy. although on the questionare i put that i had taken oxycodone before, i probably shouldnt have done that, so i guess its time to see a new doc shortly. this bastard stuck a needle full of novicane in my back before even giving me codiene or any weak painkiller
     
  12. Be-Bop

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    Fuck i feel sorry for you people stuck in the good ol' US of A- your Govt. is soo fucking backward in it's attitude towards drugs..Pinkavvy's post was excellent- never ask, when they do offer you something stronger, show concern that it is not 'too' strong, i mean you wouldn't want to be taking any of those nasty opiates that you have heard about! But the only thing i wanted to add really, was to say that with ALL stuff involving the medical profession it really pays to shop around& find a good doctor that actually listens to what you have got to say, & believes you when you are being sincere! Did you know that before the era of 'the Harrison Act' in 1914, it was a well established principle of English law that your body was like your home, & thr Govt. had no/little right to tell you what you could, & couldn't put into it! It was your own fucking business, unless you contravened other laws by bothering other people in your altered state. ///////////the US's attitude affects the rest of the World as well, they put HEAVY political pressure on any country that dares to try any different approach to opiates, or drugs in general..motherfuckers! George W. Bush & his ilk make me sick!! Hypocrites..a special room in Hell awaits them!! Anyway, Good luck with a solution to your pain problem..just persist till you find a good Dr. [​IMG],[​IMG]&gt;[​IMG](hopefully!)