Purity - Yellow methylone / white methylone

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  1. Alfa

    Alfa Productive Insomniac Staff Member Administrator

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    This question was emailed to me:


    I have a portion of white methylone and a portion of yellow colored methylone. What is the difference? Has a different route of syntesis been used?
     
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  2. taka

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    I think the same.
    I have tried the both white and yellow one but I felt the same effects.
    Someone side white is longer than yellow one in terms of trip time in Japanese drug forum.
    I think white color seems to pure. It is my personal opinion.
     
  3. kemist

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    is this methylone?

    Hi
    I had not seen methylone for several years, but when I las did, it was somewhat tan and had a distinct odor.
    Someone I know just got some and it is white and has no odor at all.


    Does this sound right to you guys? I thought some things just always had an odor. (amt for example) so I figured this always would as well. it looks a lot like 2c-i. wouldn't it be horrible to mix the two up while testing!


    have other people seen this substance white and odorless?

    ThanksEdited by: kemist
     
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    as any kemist worth his NaCl would tell you, appearence may vary from batch to batch, not to mention from supplier to supplier.

    that said, i have seen pure white methylone with little to no smell.

    methylone tests clear piss-yellow with the Marquis reagent, FYI.
     
  5. Softrat

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    The tan smelly methylone clearly had some impurities in it. Possibly just due to normal decomposition over time.
     
  6. Abrad

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    Strange Explosion report on erowid. Not methylone?

    I've just finished reading a trip report from erowid. The author claims to have bought Explosion from a head shop but the experience sounds nothing like methylone. Some of you may remember this post I made some time ago. I wonder are they connected.

    Here's the report...
     
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  7. Alfa

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    Explosion has not been for sale since the summer of last year. (one smartshop safed some and offered the product on queensday this year) So I highly doubt that this person bought explosion. Exposion however has been for sale at a few shops. (note the L missing) It contained a very low dose of methylone. They might have changed the very weak formula, to something more potent.
     
  8. Nagognog2

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    That doesn't sound like any methylone journey. Much more likely it was a 2-Cx. Which 2-C's are still legal in explosion-land? 2-CT-2? That can be incredibly visual with a fast (scarey) take-off.
     
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    I think the only 2cx compound illegal in the Netherlands is 2c-b and 2c-i. Not sure about 2-ct-2. Maybe Alfa can clarify this for us.
     
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    Swim says:

    Funny, I was just reading the same thing, and thinking the same thing.
    It doesn't need to be a legal 2-Cx in order to be found in something like "explosion" , Nagognog. There have been similar products with mdma for example.

    I hazard a guess and say: 2-ci, but that's only in my humble opinion and from my little experience.

    Pro:
    -possible craving for natural stimulation (sky, trees, funk music...) as opposed to synthetic stimulation (electronic music, ...)
    -deep, analytical thinking
    -inability to get to sleep, and
    -closed eye visuals
    -warping, depth in visuals

    Contra:
    However, it does sound somewhat more visual than 2-ci.
     
  11. fatal

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    is anyone else bothered by the fact that this is not the only active thread in this forum which is based around vendors selling mislabeled (read: not labeled at all) RCs? this could become a problem...


    :joint:
     
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    ...or even mixtures of RCs.
     
  13. Abrad

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    I think any vender who doesn't lable their products properly are scum.
     
  14. Alfa

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    2C-B, 2C-T-2, 2C-T-7 & 2C-I are illegal in the Netherlands.

    It seems to me that the people who where putting out the red passion, caribean cocos, etc. are trying to gain from the popularity of explosion.
    Exposion(without the L) labels are printed on the same kind of paper like all the red passion type products. Non glossy cheap paper, almost photocopy quality.
    The content of red passion and the like was most liklely continuously changing. So fast that no government could be quick enough to ban anything. Many users reported very different effects from the same products. Only a few of these got tested and the results show MDMA and amphetamine. However, I wouldn't be surprised if the producers brought this to the test service themselves. The point I am trying to make is that it seems that after the producers of exposion brought out a weak copycat version of explosion, it now seems that they are changing the contents in the same way the red passion type room odorisers did.

    See this related thread: Poll: Best room odoriser
     
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    I found out that several Exposion's had 200+mg of methylone in them, why is this a weak copycat ?
     
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    Because several people, in the Dutch forum and on other forums stated the effects to be significantly weaker than explosion.
    You stated himself he found under 200 mg's of solid substance after evaporation. The question is how much of this substance is methylone? A shop offering exposion told SWIM that it has about half the strenght explosion did.
     
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    Well when I took a xtc tablet the first few times it also worked very good, then he stopped for a while and when he took one.. it didn't seem to work as good as before... ;)

    Just saying that the first few times are often the best.
     
  18. Alfa

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    There must have been a lot of deviation in the dosage of the product as You and a few others did report a full effect, while others reported a very weak effect. But my main point is that I think the content is of this room odoriser is changed as well.
     
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    While maybey a clever way to disguise RC,s (as room odorizers), this is also a common disguise in other parts of the world for Amyl Nitrate. I would hate to think what could happen if an uneducated user consumed Amyl Nitrate thinking it was some kind of Methylone trip.
     
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    The smell alone should be a good enough hint to know that one shouldn't drink volatile liquids.