Drug info - Zicam Cough MAX Cough Melts

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  1. Bujin

    Bujin Newbie

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    I have used dex a few times now but he gets very "spinny", for lack of spelling, from it. Hes read that this is a side effect but he says it distracts him from the experience because he feels sick every time he turns his head. Hes tried cough gells in order to lessen the actual amount of syrup he has to ingest and that helped a little. He wondering if Zicam Cough Max melts would work, because they are designed to be taken and dissolved in the mouth hes wondering if he will get the same effects as usual or if it wont work as well. There is 30mg DXM HBr per pill so he plans on taking 10 in hopes to get the effect with a bit less nausia. If You has had any experience or can offer some incite on the matter that would be great.
     
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  2. Riconoen {UGC}

    Riconoen {UGC} Newbie

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    Re: DXM From Cough Melts?

    I have good experience from the cough melts, they do what DXM should do, taste a hell of alot better than robotussin, and also have less of a hangover in swim's experience.
     
  3. Heretic.Ape.

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    zicam cough melts, laxative effect

    Has anyone else had trouble with this? Labmonkey just took zicam cough melts (the dissolving tabs that come in packs of 10) for the second time and both times there has been a period of time in which he is running back and forth to the commode peeing out his ass. The first time he thought it was mild food poisoning because his stomach had been bothering him since he ate fast food earlier that evening. But based on the way he's running around tonight it would appear it is the melts themselves that are responsible for this monkey's distress.
    Thought I'd give fair warning to stay close to a toilet if any swimmers try these for the first time, just in case you have a similar reaction. :eek:
     
  4. pixplzthx

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    Re: zicam cough melts, laxative effect

    Inactive ingredients of the cough melts: Crosspovidone, Magnesium Stearate, Mannitol, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Natural & Artificial Cherry Flavor, Polysorbate 80, Polyvinyl Pyrolidone, Talc (Purified), Silicon Dioxide, Sodium Lauryl Sulphate, Sodium Starch Glycolate, Sorbitan Monostearate, Sucralose.

    Common laxative ingredients:

    Aloe Vera
    Bisacodyl
    Calcium Polycarbophil
    Casanthranol
    Cascara Sagrada
    Castor Oil
    Danthron
    Dehydrocholic Acid
    Docusate Sodium & Calcium
    Fructan
    Glycerin
    Lactulose
    Magnesium Citrate
    Magnesium Hydroxide
    Malt Soup Extract
    Methylcellulose
    Mineral Oil
    Monobasic & Dibasic Sodium Phosphates
    Phenolphthalein
    Poloxamer 188
    Polyethylene Glycol
    Potassium Bitartrate & Sodium Bicarbonate
    Psyllium
    Psyllium Hydrophilic
    Senna & Sennosides
    Sodium Bicarbonate
    Sodium Phosphate Enemas & Oral Solutions

    None of them seem to match up directly. So when all else fails, blame it on the Sucralose
     
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  5. Paracelsus

    Paracelsus Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Active Ingredients: Dextromethorphan HBr (30 mg).

    Inactive Ingredients: Crosspovidone, Magnesium Stearate, Mannitol, Microcrystalline Cellulose, Natural & Artificial Cherry Flavor, Polysorbate 80, Polyvinyl Pyrolidone, Purified Talc, Silicon Dioxide, Sodium Lauryl Sulphate, Sodium Starch Glycolate, Sorbitan Monostearate, Sucralose.
     

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    I say these things are great. He says that they taste good, but he barely tastes them at all anyway because he just swallows them like pills. He also says that they don't make him nauseous at all. :thumbsup:
     
  7. thenightwatch

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    Most DXM products contain Polyethylene Glycol (PEG), which aids in the intestinal absorption of DXM. As this product is intended for sublingual use, it does not contain PEG. Many who use this product chew and swallow all of the tabs, and experience no effects. This problem can be solved by coadministering this product with another DXM product that does contain PEG.

    Now that I think about it, I have never heard of anyone taking a recreational dose of this product completely via the sublingual route. Have any my here done that? How did it go?
     
  8. Frond

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    I did try that, actually, since the usual method of administration produced far too many GI problems.

    In an (oversized) nutshell, it went like this:

    SWIM slowly absorbed 10x30mg Zicam Cough Melts under the tongue one at a time over the course of half an hour; a middle second plateau dose for SWIM and theoretically quite mild. The tasted was initially pleasant but by the end he was gagging. Thankfully, there were pleasant tasting fluids nearby to wash it all down.

    Half an hour after the last dose there were some initial effects. SWIM ventured into the Great Outdoors to stand by the Toking Tree and indulge in some evil Mary Jewanna. The process, by this time redundant and familiar, felt novel and funny for some reason I couldn't quite fathom.

    I did have some of the foul ass-pee, so taking the pills sub-lingually doesn't seem to prevent the absorption of sucralose - but SWIM swallowed whatever saliva built up in his mouth, so "sub-lingual" must be taken with a grain of salt (though hopefully not sub-lingually!).

    Over the next hour, the sensations matured into a full-blown trip. Some qualitative aspects of it were as follows:

    - colorful, very three-dimensional CEVs that resolved themselves into concrete images rather than abstract patterns. Strong sense of physical motion in tune to the movement of the visuals.

    - strange OEVs that included washed-out textures, lack of color gradients, and objects outlined in sloppy, brightly glowing multicolored neon lines. Very cartoon/comic/manga-like, but with glowing neon outlines to objects instead of black ones.

    - strong, chemical body load, distinct feeling of foreign chemical intoxication. "Frying face," as it were.

    - mild, but profound mental effects which included complete quietening of the internal monologue, very tranquil, peacful, Zen-like sense of serenity, and powerful, insightful thoughts emerging from mental stillness. Very pleasant and spiritual, but not on the same order of intensity as more traditional tryptamine and ergoline-derived means of mental re-adjustment.

    So, I was at once pretty far out, but at the same time well in control. This is a little too strong a trip for 300mg, but SWIM reckons that the evil Mary Jewanna had a powerful potentiating effect.

    SWIM lay in bed, listening to music and floating over alien landscapes, when at times a cold, robotic female computer voice would announce "Your mind will self-destruct in 3... 2... 1..." whereupon I would proceed to sit up in bed, bolt-upright, and rip off his headphones. Well, they're very nice electrostatic headphones, and the hi-fi music was occasionally too much to bear.

    Still, SWIM's mind must have really self-destructed at some point, because he came to a place where there was no place, no space, and no time. There was no thought, no self, no otherness, just visuals and peace. Afterwards, he deduced that he must have spent 3 hours in this state, but subjectively, it could have been an instant or an eternity, he really couldn't tell - or care less.

    Things stayed trippy for maybe 8 hours, and the subsequent 8 hours were spent trying to fall asleep. Visual distortions lasted for perhaps 16-18 hours total, but mental effects subsided relatively quickly, and the chemical burn was replaced with profound exhaustion.

    So, nice trip, but a little too much body load for SWIM to do more than once in a blue moon. And the moon hasn't been that proper shade of blue ever since...
     
    1. 4/5,
      Interesting report.
      Jul 19, 2008
    2. 5/5,
      nice trip report. welcome to the machine ;)
      Jul 18, 2008
  9. RaverHippie

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    Anyone else find it odd that sodium lauryl Sulphate is an ingredient in these? (think sudsing agent in shampoos and soaps)
     
  10. Milk man

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    Swim dissolved his tablets in a water bottle and drank it down. He had a shitty trip, he felt tired and disoriented. He felt like what he thought a deleriant is supposed to be like. He was going to make it his last DXM trip, but since he did it wrong, he might try again.
     
  11. misfitmanic

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    A person obtained some of these from a local grocery store that was having a sale on such products. He/she took about 6 of them. They can be swallowed whole, eaten, or crushed and mixed with a beverage. The person ate them, while drinking some water to chase it down (they get chalky and are not that good, but still better than syrups.) Because of the dose, the results were only a mild second plateau, but they hit within five minutes!
    A person would strongly recommend them because of their fast acting properties. :thumbsup:
     
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      Good job joining existing thread instead of creating a new one.
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  12. drugresearcher

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    so swimmers what seems to be the strongest method of administration of the dissolving tablets? swim intends to try for the first time next week:thumbsup:
     
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