Drug information Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) Drug Info

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  1. dardoe

    dardoe Silver Member

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    Re: Mdpv

    I have snorted 200-300mg MDPV once while he was in a amphetamine psychosis.

    I had been awake for 5 days snorting MDPV, redosing every hour.
    5th day he started to act strange and was realy jumpy and paranoid.

    He hadnt ate anything in 5 days and only drank a few glasses of water, hes skin felt weird and hes urine was realy dark and had a unusual smell.
    You could also see he lost a few pounds.

    Ppl were starting to get worried and told him he should get some sleep.
    so he went to bed and took what was left from the gram MDPV he had bought.

    At first everything seemed ok, but soon he starts seeing and hearing things that arent there.

    We heard SWIM running around in hes bethroom yelling that theres a cat in hes room, someone came to take a look and said the cat ran out when she opened the door, he calmed down and got back in bed.

    After a while he started talking and yelling to someone. (he later said that someone was Golem(LOTR), or it kinda looked like him, and that he wanted to steal hes MDPV)
    He sounded really agresive so we thought it was best to just leave him alone and hope he falls asleep soon.

    He was afraid he would fall asleep and loosing hes MDPV, so he decided to snort all what was left at once, it looked like 200-300mg.

    He started laughing maniacally for about 30 mins cuz he had defeated the Golem.
    After that all went black, he probably passed out or fell a sleep.
    He wakes up in the morning after only 5 hours of sleep, still not feeling how he should.

    All he can think of is MDPV, so obsessed that he starts searching for it on the floor and on the sheats of hes bed for hours.
    It almost takes a day of searching every inch of the room before he realises hes not gonna find anything.

    After another night sleep and drinking alot of water hes starting to feel better.
    He remembers everything what happened but its like he had no control over hes body and what he was doing just like the amphetamine psychosis he had 5 years earlier from daily amphetamine use.

    He had bought grams of MDPV several times before this incident, there was nothing different about this gram.

    He said that from the first day he started taking it hes mind only focused on one thing, he lost track of time and anything else.
    He sat for 4 days working hes computer not responding to anything.

    I will never be doing MDPV again, he thinks he was close to organs failures, maybe even death.

    Peace.
     
  2. konshuss

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    Re: Mdpv

    My cat enjoys smallish oral doses of MDPV (sub-4mg with glass of water) -- fantastic study aid. No harsh comedown. Kitty cat gets lots done, like having a strong coffee, but without the caffeine jitters. Razor-sharp mental focus for about 3-4 hours.

    From perusing the experience reports, it seems MDPV displays almost a Dr. Jekyll/Mr. Hyde quality for many SWIM's and lab animals.

    I think this is largely dependent on dose/method of administration, as well as personal tolerance to stims.

    My feline friend does not consider MDPV to be recreational at all. More of a study-aid.
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    mmmmmmdpv.....
     
  4. konshuss

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    FWIW, my cat tried a larger amount of MDPV recently, to see if "more is better". Well, of course it ain't.

    15mg of MDPV orally produced 1 hour of euphoria, about 4 hours of mental alertness, and 18+ hours of pounding heart-rate increases, almost bordering on tachycardia (above +100 beats per minute) ... my kitty really didn't enjoy that, especially when he was trying to sleep.

    My cat is sticking to the smallish doses (2-3mg) ... more gain, less pain.
     
  5. stfumofoz

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    Re: Mdpv

    If there's any weirdos in this crowd... I feel hungry at the start of an MDPV experience, even if I keep a cig in my mouth... wtf is up with that? Has there ever been a record of such a food craving that hard drugs can't satisfy?.... I'm definately not fat, or gaining weight... I hope its not just me....
     
  6. snapper

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    MDPV kills SWIM's appetite right away and also causes excess production of stomach acid. I takes some famotidine before dosing now due to this. So SWIstfumofoz is gonna get really fat !
     
  7. konshuss

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    ^ Yeah, my cat is suprised to hear about GETTING HUNGRY on MDPV...

    Kitty always has the OPPOSITE problem, absolutely NO interest in food.

    The MDPV molecule is closely related to another drug which is prescribed as an appetite suppressant, if I remember correctly.

    But then again everyone's different! :)
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    I think I am 3-years to late on this, but:

    My friend tend to take 15mg insuffulated, but after reading reports on a different thread I was a little nervous.

    I took ~7.5mg; ~3.75mg per nostrill; 2 small line.

    Swim though this was a good experience. Lasted about 6-hours with no real crash or comedown, pretty gradual really.

    After about 20 - 30 mins started to work felt lots of energy, lots of talking and went for a walk with swim's little fishy. After about an hours walk felt fairly relaxed, head a little heavy with some euphoria.

    Would say was a mix of speed to start and some mild coke for a few hours.

    Overall I was v impressed, especially for the price and is looking for some more in the new year. Will try what swims freinds try and do a whole 15mg.

    I do agree sleep was a little difficult but some weed helped. Other people talk of redosing issues. Swim can understand what they mean but it by no means like coke, which is hard to leave alone.
     
  9. lewk

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    Re: Mdpv

    Does anyone know how the synthesis of MDPV came about? Where the chemical is derived from?

    Any information behind the chemistry?

    Excellent reports and personal stories being posted!

    I love you guys =]
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    Found this intereting info posted on another forum by a respected member, which relates to the difference in the batches people have been experiencing. I'll cut it here:

    [quote="fastandbulbous]It is, total vendor bollocks - the brown stuff is the hydrochloride salt; the brown colour is due to an increased amount of the impurity pyrrolidine. On a different note, I recently obtained some almost pure white stuff (a very slight, creamy white colour) that gave the right smell after contact with hot permanganate solution. So basically it's peevee that purer than the tan stuff (less pyrrolidine)[/QUOTE]

    [quote="fastandbulbous]^ Now this is pure conjecture on my behalf, but the cloves/cinnamon smell makes me think it's got another substitution pattern in the phenyl ring as a lot of spices derive their oudour from different substitutions on the ring of allylbenzene (4-methoxyphenyl giving aniseed, 3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl giving sassafras, 3,-methoxy-4,5-methylenedioxyphenyl giving nutmeg/mace etc) That it might be 3-methoxy-4-methylpyrovalerone, which is derived from the allylbenzene derivative eugenol, which gives cloves their local anaesthetic activity. 3-methoxy-4-methylmethamphetamine is not that dissimilar to MDMA in activity, so from a 3,4-methylenedioxy derivative to a 3-methoxy-4-methyl one might seem a logical step that doesn't require the use of monitored precursor (just about all 3,4-methylenedioxy compounds are included in the UNs list of drug precursor chemicals), which because of it's status is way more expensive than say the 3-methoxy-4-methyl equivalents.

    That would seem a valid route of investigation if I had to find an alternative for MDPV (one among many)[/QUOTE]

    [quote="fastandbulbous]The brown colour is due to the organic chemists nemesis - amorphous brown tar. Don't ask me why, but side reactions always seem to produce an amorphous brown tar. Basically the tan/brown stuff hadn't been purified that much (pyrrolidine is an utter bastid to separate out from peevee)[/QUOTE]
     
  11. konshuss

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    Re: Mdpv

    If my poor memory and haphazard Google searches mean anything, I think pyrovalerone was originally synthesized in the 1960's and was marketed by a French pharma after that.

    I think MDPV was synthesized in the 1980's * big guess * ... if I remember correctly it was an experimental drug in the treatment of cocaine addiction.

    All of this info could be completely wrong, so my apologies ... Thanks to those who may be able to shed more light on this subject.
     
  12. lulz

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    My rhesus monkey is planning to have an MDPV session with two friends some time soon. They're both experienced with MDPV, debaucherous writer drug fiends who know what they'll be getting into.

    The monkey's idea is to prepare a special tray of ice cubes. Special MDPV ice cubes. If his monkey were to use a precise milligram scale, and volumetric measurement to deliver 5 milligrams dropped into each square of the ice cube tray before freezing, is there any reason to believe the MDPV might degrade assuming clean materials were used during the process?
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    Why doesn't You just take the powder orally - 5 mg rubbed on the gums or tongue kicks in really fast and is way less messy than ice cubes.
    Maybe MDPV jello shots in different colors would be more appropriate fodder for drug-starved, debaucherous writers. Bright colors are always more debaucherous than boring old ice cubes.
    MDPV seems pretty stable, BTW and will probably stay that way if frozen. I have left powder sitting out of a week with no loss of potency, though not dissolved in anything.
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    I have heard this being called monkeydust by a few locals. Apparently its great.
     
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    From wikipedia: "[MDPV] has also been observed to rapidly degrade and lose potency when in solution."

    So it doesn't look good, and neither do any volumetric measuring approaches for this compound.
     
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    What You guys think is best way to take off the edginess and anxious paranoia when using MDPV? There is almost no line between recreational dose and anxious dose. Damn, otherwhise I like this.
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    benzodiazipines are the best thing I has found that helps or you could try beta blockers like: propranolol
     
  18. lewk

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    Does anyone know what tests expose MDPV in your system? And how about sniffer dogs, how likely would it be that a dog could sniff out MDPV?

    haha
     
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    I had exactly the same problem with stomach acid, but antacids/histamine antagonists weren't working for him.

    He looked into any possible way that increased dopamine levels could be causing the problem, and found that dopamine reuptake inhibitors (along with dopamine agonists) can delay gastric emptying, and cause acid reflux.

    So he tried domperidone (Motilium), a peripheral dopamine antagonist that does not enter the brain, and it works perfectly. I don't think it's for sale in the US, but it's an over the counter drug in most of Europe afaik.
     
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    GBL and benzo's work absolute wonders, especially GBL/GHB I find. Infact swim can only ever get to his desired euphoric level on MDPV if he uses it in conjuction with GBL or Valium to stop the anxiousness/jitters. But keep an eye on your BPM, I got a bit carried away once due to him thinking that the GBL was going to stop all the bad effects, it stops the paranoia and muscle stimulation, but not your BPM. So I was stuck with a huge resting BPM of 150 for about 2 hours, which left him feeling extremely on edge and was a terrible experience until it eventually calmed down. It took him quite a while to recover from that one, with the paranoia lasting a good few days even though the BPM was back to normal.