Drug information Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) Drug Info

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---Is it just me or does this thread seem to be fizzling out? Either that or I'm just checking in with more regularity perhaps...Maybe everyone is binging on their new stash for the new year while the squirrel up the block waits for his to arrive


---So, for anyone still around: PLEASE COMMENT ON WHETHER You CURRENTLY HAS A NEWLY ORDERED BATCH OF TAN , OR WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU OBTAINED A PROPER BATCH. It may be hard to discern for those with the "new/fake tan", but those of us who've had both/many kinds will note the difference.

---The squirrel up the block last got a proper batch of tan (his first go-around with this little delight) in May of 2009 from a North American supply that is now completely defunct. Since then, he has received 1 batch of crystal white stuff which he now presumes was Meph (never done it but guesses based upon reports) from that same orig. vendor JUST BEFORE it went bye-bye completely. Next was Ivory wave, still don't know what that was for sure, felt somewhat similar in certain ways. Lastly, white Asian batch that compares moderately to Tan only when basifed and vaped, but who knows what it really was. Sucks that the best stuff was once available in his country and everything else is sub-par and has had to go through customs...

---I came across info (god i'll feel stupid if it was earlier in this same thread!) about the building block for true PV being a watched/scheduled/illegal precursor. In particular it was the dioxy portion on the far left of the chemical structure when viewed online. For this reason it is supposed that most if not all chemists are cutting corners and essentially making the same compound minus that dioxy component. Obviously different structure, differnt binding affinity, etc. From this country's perspective this seems logical: MDMA=METHYLENEDIOXYmethamphetamine. So not only could that precursor be an analogue of MDMA, but likely also meth as well? No wonder a chemist would be leery of that, and in any other country where there are analogue restrictions.

---At any rate, just sucks ass to not have the real deal so readily accessible anymore.

---I've just cashed a bottled of pinot noir, so MODs please feel free to snip as needed if anything is out of bounds.

Cheers

 

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swim received something that was marked as MDPV, and he got his testing kit out. here's an image for people's info



Simons and Robadope basically showed no change.

 

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SWIM recived 1g of MDPV over a month ago now, he originally ordered mephedrone but the site was out of stock and sent MDPV instead. He was a bit sceptacal of the substance at first but now he belives he has got to grips with it. At first he found the 5mg to hard to weigh as he only has .00 scales so what he does is weight out .05, 50mg, and split 5 ways he puts the powder into some old empty tramadol capsules he has lying around.
SWIM's first experience was with a unknown quantity as him and a friend were just taking tiny dabs until efects were felt but Swim tells me that it felt like he was plugged into the mains, rushes allover like amphetamine very talkative with main effects lasting around 12hours, personaly i think I took to much as he told me he never slept for 2 days, 20hours after first dose I was still very stimulated much like a large dose of caffeine, his heart was pounding but he couldnt find a pulse and felt faint when standing or moving to quick.
SWIM now finds that 10mg is enough to get him going and when on a binge 50mg over a 12hour period is more then enough, getting to sleep is still hard but he finds aslong as he lies down in a dark room he will eventually drop off.
On SWIM's last MDPV dose (50mg over 8hours, the morning after a night on the town) he deciced to take tramadol on the come down, 50mg of tramadol was enough to put him to bed for 2 hours and when he woke he would take more tramadol and then back to bed, this was not a good idea and I would say he wil never be doing that again, 300mg of tramadol later SWIM woke with large boils in his groin and what he thinks was a light case of serotonin syndrome, no concentration, compleate lack of coordination, splitting head, auditory hallicinations, involuntary muscle spasms. Not fun at all.
MDPV can be fun and when used in very small doses 2-5mg it can be used as a mood lifter or if you have to get something done, above 10mg it is very mentaly and physically stimulating, I will defo be taking it again.

 

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Could anyone enlighten SWIM re: IV use, as this is his ROA of choice when possible for stims.......
dosage (SWIM's guessing 2-5 mgs)
is there a rush like with cocaine or more just instatweak like with meth?
Can it be prepped for IV via the standard water, spoon, heat and cotton method or are micron filters and other gimcracks needed.

Please if You doesn't know for sure, I would prefer to have these answered by one that does, he is considering a trial purchase.

 

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hi everybody! any experience with taking one dose of mdpv followed in hour or two by ecstasy pill? (I am going to 15 hours festival so needs to start with something easier on body and take heavier stuff later). thks.

 

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I have combined MDPV with methylone - I like that better than MDMA and has not used ecstacy in a very long time... The combo is fine except for increased tachycardia and more peripheral stimulation (tremors and basically feeling wired). Also makes me think about sex a lot more than methylone alone which is more of a social drug for SWIM. The worst part is the additive stimulation - the combination just gets SWIM too wired - uncomfortably so. I do not feel that MDPV enhances the high much but does not have any major negative interactions (for SWIM anyways - everyone is different...).

 

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MDPV is the most compulsive drug I has ever done, he just can't stop hitting that pipe, it's worse than fucking crack! He's been at it since 11am, 16 hours ago, and in that time he's done 150mg so far, solely via the pipe, far too much!! He's still got over 300mg left, aargh!!!
At this moment in time what swim needs is some benzos and a safe. Or he envisages psychosis by Sunday, fun!
He's not even sure if he's still enjoying it, don't think he is, but still he can't stop hitting that pipe for some reason (though he does know why really, dopamine = reward innit).
Bloody strange substance!
Any swimer fancy coming round and freeing swim of this bloody pipe?
PV's no fun without a downer to mellow the buzz out a bit says swim.

This will deffo be swim's last dabble with this substance for a while.

 

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You should give the rest of your stash to a mate and tell him to hold onto it for you. Tell him not to give it back for atleast a week.. And tell him not to try it, it's pulled you in!

Get out why you're still alive

 

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I wouldn't advise digging this shit. If the pipe's anything to go by, You will have ten pins in him at a time. More, more, more until it's all gone or one has blacked out with psychosis.
Though if You really wants to iv pv I would start really low, 1mg or under. It's very potent stuff!

Swim's never tried proper meth, but there's certainly quite a rush from smoking mdpv, quite similar to crack he says.

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Cheers for the advice, but it's 4am so no mates around at the mo.
So mind over matter it is!

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....After I has just one more pipe. Idiot that he is.

 

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Goodluck dude

Was also wondering how you prepare it for smoking? Do you just cook it like you would with crack? Baking soda + water + mdpv?

 

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Nah, swim just smokes the salt. He's tried freebasing it with ammonia, and mdpv freebase just evaporates into thin air, very quickly! Waste of time.

 

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How much salt do you use?

Hope i'm not keeping you concentrated on it, making it harder to stop.. heh

Go for a LONG LONG walk and leave the pipe at home, when you stop tweaking, start to walk home and by the time you get back hopefully you're keen on hitting the bed.

smash tha piipeeeeeee

 

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Yep, others have made similar reports. My rhinograde also got to the point where he 'wasn't even sure if he's still enjoying it', although it took him two weeks of intermittent usage to get there, rather than a 16 hour roll. That was the point where he decided to give MDPV a rest for a while. My theory is that that peculiar state reflects generalized neurotransmitter depletion.

My rhinograde also thought of combining MDPV with a benzodiazepine, especially because he found he couldn't push to dose past a certain point without severe anxiety. HOWEVER: he also believes that speedballing this drug might be unsafe, because the dose that causes anxiety is also the point of increasing tachycardia. A benzodiazepine might make the user oblivious to the fact that although his anxiety was under control, his heart was racing towards arrhythmia, heart failure, or infarction.

The rhinograde hasn't completely abandoned this idea, but he urges caution.

G_nome: It's been suggested elsewhere on this board that a simple strategy for temporarily making drug inaccessible is to put it in an envelope, addressed to you, and drop it in a mailbox. This can be done at any hour of the day or night, as long as You has postage in the house.

 

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Swim smokes about 10-20mg at a time, sometimes less, sometimes more. More, more, more!
It's weird, swim never had any trouble putting a crack pipe down, so why does this shit have such a hold?

And a walk's well out of the question, swim's too paranoid and anxious to be doing that kinda stuff. Like, there could be people out there, REAL ACTUAL PEOPLE, scary!

He's now done about 200mg in just under 18 hours, stupid, stupid, stupid!
But the pipe's down, shit's away and he's just gonna smoke some skunk and try chill.

Thanks for giving a shit.
Appreciated.

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I think swim reached the joy of neurotransmitter depletion about 11 hours ago, when he started to feel sick. So he thought, i know what'll cure that, another pipe! Ooh now I has got a headache, better have another pipe!
Swim used to enjoy his wee pv binge at the weekends, but after this experience it's deffo time for a long break.

And great advice about posting the shit to swimself, but as I say in his previous post, there's no chance I am going anywhere right now, cept for the toilet, and maybe a psych ward later. :crazy

He's been taking clonidine to keep the heart rate down, and also black seed oil, which do help.

And again, thanks for giving a shit, swiSnouter Fancier.
Ha, love the name!

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Any ideas on how to get swim's neurotransmitters fully functional again? Like, any particular food he should eat or whatever?
Or is it just a matter of time and water?

 

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MDPV is believed to be a dopamine-norepinephrine re-uptake inhibitor, so it would be these two neurotransmitters that would be depleted. Both are synthesized by the body from the amino acid tyrosine. Tyrosine is found in many foods, especially those high in protein, and is also available as a dietary supplement. Glucose/electrolyte containing fluids -- sports drink, or even chicken/beef broth, maybe diluted -- and sleep, when possible, also sound good.

For my rhinograde's future MDPV research, he plans to pre-load and post-load with high-protein foods and l-tyrosine supplement.

Good luck, G_nome, try to stay safe, hope you feel better. Check in when you're recovered and let us know how you're doing.

 

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Thanks man

Been a few hours since the last pipe, swim's just had some muesli and a multi-vitamin. And is now gonna have some bovril as per swiy's suggestion, that should help eh.
So i think I will be fine, was just rather scary back then. But you swimmers helped loads, thanks a lot!

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Well that was a roaring success! 31 hours or so later and swim's still at it. :s
Though I am feeling fine, so he'll sort this mess out soon.

NEVER AGAIN!

 

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...until the next time, hehe.:vibes:

Just made an order myself. Would have liked mephedrone better, but it's allready illegal here.
Still, very interested to try something new for a change!

 

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Nah, never again! Swim don't need this shit, he's got more important stuff to be getting on with and he seems to have a compulsive personality, so believe swim when he says never again.
It also seems to turn swim into a right horrible cunt, even swim don't like himself at the moment.
Though he's glad of the experience and the lesson learned.

So go easy on that shit, swiasd., and do try not to start smoking it, bad idea. More compulsive than crack? No fucking thanks!

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40 or so hours later and swim's still at, but he's feeling fine, not all edgy like he felt 24 hours ago, though the frequency of pipes hasn't been so severe. Swim guesses he just had too large attack doses when he started this wee binge.
Seems like a relatively benign stim when dosed correctly, it's the only stim that I has ever used that he can still eat on. He even gets hungry in between pipes, which is a good thing.
Still, be his last time.
Glad of the experience though, it's a rather strange substance this one.

 

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SWIM just recieved his order. It is his first experience with a substance that need this accurate dosing. Since his scale is only accurate to 10mg, weighing is a pain.
Any suggestions on this topic would be welcome.

SWIM just consumed what he hope was a 5mg dose, lol.

 

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is swiy's scale accurate to 10mg or is that its lowest readability? they are two very, very different things.

Its been said time and time again, if one can afford to play with these substances they can afford a scale worthy of measuring them, and they have a moral responsibility, to themselves, to others they partake with, and to the rc scene in general to use such a scale

this is not a LOL matter

thee turtle is getting tired of the bitching about the government banning substances and the media creating hysteria when the users and vendors refuse to show the degree of responsibility needed for safe use.