Drug information Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) Drug Info

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10mg is the lowest readability. Sorry, should have been clearer.

And I have to admit that you are right. Messing around with a potent substance that you can't accurately weigh is no laughing matter. I will get a milligram scale ASAP.
OT: Do chemical retailers usually stock such scales?

 

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weigh up 10mg and halve it?

 

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^^ the problem with that is a scale w 10mg readability is not accurate to 10mg, and halving such a small amount (any amount really) is impossible to do with any accuracy.

The turtles aardvark would be lying if he said he had never done such stupid things,, but he would also be lying if he said he had never witnessed the fallout from such stupid actions. He strongly advises not learning the lesson the hard way.

 

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Until trying MDPV, SWIM's only experince in smoking was in herbs.
At first he used foil. The substance liquified and evaporated. The smoke was very mild and with a clean taste.
Later he thought that a homemade lightbulb vap should work better than foil since less substance will be burned (it was a guess, since he had read that you don't want to burn meth for example. is it the case here?).
But the bulb seemed to have the opposite effect. The substance turns black very fast, the smoke was very harsh and bitter tasting. The effects were also substantially reduced.

Could anyone explain, why is this happening?

 

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when I tried mdpv for the first time I was going to a concert and did not know what to expect from it. I have tried e before and had the best time of SWIM's life. After reading some forums I thought that it would be similar with energy but not with the whole happy feeling. I was deeply disappointed to find out that mdpv really did nothing, it basically brought SWIM's energy up to what it normally is during the day and did not last long, I took 16mg of it and it took an hour to get up, peeked for like 30 min and slowly dropped back down 2 hours after. I felt just awake nothing out of the normal "I am usually energetic though, and also SWIM's tolerance to anything except alcohol is ultra low." SWIM also noticed side effects, nothing major just a lil jaw clench, and after the come down physically tired but mentally awake so bad sleep followed. would not recommend it really if u want energy take an energy shot does the same thing

 

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hmm- what was the route of administration? And was this supposedly pure mdpv or a "bath salt/legal high" product containing mdpv?

16mg is a quite large dose, especially for first time use. that should have elicited a much, much stronger response, and quite potentially problems for inexperienced stimulant users.

 

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Ok guys, thought I should report in.

Well tonight is the first sober day for SWIM, ending a 6 day binge. Little sleep was had during that time and not much food, either. MDPV certanly doesn't supress apetite as much as amphetamines, for example, but it felt weird being truly hungry for the first time in such a long time.

For SWIM it was tough to put the pipe down. It is an extremely compulsive drug and that much more when smoked. Also, it is very easy to loose track of dosing. You could feel like having another hit just 5 minutes from taking the last. In hindsight I should have written down the time of every dose.

When consumed in a social setting MDPV worked wonders. After just one hit everyone had something to say. My friends and I just talked and talked, stopping only to redose.

The doses itself started out small (5mg as suggested here) but there were instances where several 20-30mg hits were smoked with 5-10 minute breaks.
No serious physical or mental problems were noted. Some elevated heart rate, but nothing to be worried about.

Now the after a day of sobriety everything is great. SWIM can't stop smiling and life seems to be better than ever. There appear to be absolutely no withdrawal symptoms- I am feeling better than before the binge.
Also there is some of the substance left but I have no craving for it at this point.

 

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My pet lobster , Thermidor just got his claws on some . 100mg was separated off (scale resolution) and divided into 10 piles by eye . 9 were were shoved back in the bag . The last one was then parted in the middle and half put to one side . The lobster has tucked into 3 'air' lines at half hour intervals since 11am which are smooth to his palate , reckon about a third of the 1/10 divided by two has gone (what a bodge) . Positive reports , no rush but pleasant and chatty are what I'm told . Slight nausea due to hunger, bread and butter stuck to the top of Thermidor's mouth . Slight jaw clenching too . Strong stuff and obviously needs to be respected , the lobster is now seeking more suitable pans to get this worked out properly

G

 

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asd, it's been six days since we've heard from you. Can you tell us what happened to you? After the first day off MDPV -- which in the experience of my rhinograde, is indeed often cheerful -- I predict that You was asleep on his feet for the next five days, and strongly suspected that someone was slipping massive doses of Xanax in his Cheerios every morning. Am I correct?

 

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It was pure and SWIM put 9mg in a capsule and swallowed it and then later right before SWIM peaked ate the extra which was 7 mg orally as well. SWIM realizes it is stronger when snorted but SWIM just does not feel comfortable doing that.

 

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SWIM made a terrible error upon his first experience with this, being a big guy he thought he'd start at 10mg, and work his way up. I did about 18mg in a span of 20 minutes, unfortunately SWIM just does NOT go well with high doses of this.

I have found less really is more, and the line between feeling good, and horrific panic attacks/pounding chest/feeling sick are very slim.

I have had numerous more experiences, and is now very confident in his ability to work his way up, and know when he's at the point of no return, thank god.

This chemical has its uses, I vaped it a few times, it was so insanely moreish, will stick to insufflation or sub lingualing, thank you very much.

 

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I was having a freindly chat with a big issue seller, he said he would never touch "that shit" (MDPV) he said hes not gonna be a guinea pig, "testing out newly designed drugs on himself" he said was absurd - even to a crackhead, kinda shocked swim. He looked like your average homeless duudeio, maybe an eye opener? or stubborn opinion, or he has a happy routine that hes not willing to break, or that crack is just so much better hahahah

 

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Crackhead or not, he's got sense. At the very least, anyone who's thinking about trying MDPV should read everything they can about it before they do so. The body of knowledge that's been written about it on this forum and others should be considered as objectively as possible. In other words, don't just pay attention to the positive stuff and ignore all the negative stuff and warnings that people have posted. If you pay attention and do careful research on the forums, you will find that many people consider it to be an awful drug, and even many of the people who initially have something positive to say about it will sooner or later change their mind or post some horror story about it. So most people with any sense will never try MDPV if they first read all the info about it here and on other forums.

 

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Well my lobster got some and won't be re-ordering , even though it does appear to be nice used in moderation . A g is too much for him to put away , the sewer rats will enjoy the residue eventually . The supplier has just hammered his price down , doing his pimping bit firing off emails to all and sundry . Won't be long before it's being offered as a mephedrone substitute . That won't be good !

G

 

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A 500mg MDPV supply should be arriving f tomorrow, along with possibly another 100mg MDPV and 1g of Methylone, if the royal mail service is kind.My donkey is Intending to start off with 2.5mg through the nose for a taster. Then attend a party later on at night where they may try some more along with alcohol and maybe Methylone. the donkey thinks If they keep the dosage controlled from what they have read here and on other sites, along with the alcohol too tone it down a bit It should work out well. they will remain sceptical though. they want to see MDPV's effects in a relaxed social setting with close friends. And I will keep you all updated on the donkeys adventures. hope the Mail service is kind!

 

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:applause:

Add my monkey to that list. 1 gram. 6 days. 0 sleep. 0 food. 2 12oz bottles of water. Severe Dehydration (Cracked and blistered lips, sores in the mouth, sore throat). Stimulant Psychosis. He thought his limbs weren't getting enough oxygen and turning purple. Even after other sober monkeys re-assured him that he was OK, he was convinced he was losing his limbs. Complete defeat and surrender to that drug. Poor poor monkey.

You can be one of those people who reads all the comments about how insane this drug is, that it produces extreme anxiety and paranoia, and yet you go back RELENTLESSLY...and you can think to yourself "Nah, You knows when to stop, You can have a gram on him/her and only dabble in a mg or 2 every now and then. And besides, if the side-effects are so bad You won't want to do any more and stop."

You can think that. But you're most likely very wrong.

MDPV is brutal, not fun, and strangely powerful.

If I were you, I'd invest my time and resources elsewhere.

 

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My imaginary evil twin (let's call him E.T.) has shared his MDPV-related information and experiences with me, and while this info may seem redundant here, I feel like it's worth posting– if only to add emphasis to the previous posts.

Please bear with me on this background info... I promise, it's relevant: E.T. has never really had issues with willpower, self control, or any substance-related compulsion. He is usually aware of his limitations, knows when to quit, and has (so far... ) always managed to resist the temptation to binge. He loves stimulants, but hasn't abused his methylphenidate prescription (beyond occasional isolated "experiments"– but even then, he had no trouble stopping at the pre-determined time/dose). He has bottles of Oxycontin and vials of Fentanyl at home that he keeps for "emergencies" next to his Versed and Klonopin stashes. E.T. has even extracted 8 grams of his own 97% pure cocaine HCl, sampled it for himself, then gave 7 grams of it away because he felt like he just didn't need that much.

E.T. asked me to mention all of this so that anyone reading understands what it means when he says: MDPV is THE MOST ADDICTIVE substance he has EVER tried! PERIOD.

E.T. is someone who could always say "this is the last one" and actually MEAN it. But with MDPV, he just wanted more. He can't even say WHY, exactly. It doesn't have the euphoria of cocaine or opiates. Psychologically, it isn't as clear-headed as the ADHD stimulants. It feels more "motivational" to E.T., but not as focused as methylphenidate or amphetamine. Physically, it doesn't seem to offer the sense of stamina the comes with other CNS stimulants. It DOES do fantastic things for sex, but that usually isn't the motivating factor.

It's as though it creates a brand new reward center in the brain that specifically demands more of itself. For a good metaphor, imagine any government agency– 90% if its activity is dedicated to convincing you that you need it, and in the end, you're not even sure what the benefit of the other 10% was.

One very good thing E.T. has found about MDPV, is that the compulsion to re-dose is strictly limited to the period of time that he is actually using the drug. As soon as all of the effects and (in E.T.s case, mild) withdrawal symptoms have worn off, there is no more craving. I think SWIBenga referred to it as a "closed-loop" type of craving. It perpetuates itself, but only as long as it's active.

As a part of his own sick (and possibly ironic) need to not allow this substance to control him, E.T. managed to work out a way to use MDPV occasionally as a motivational, energy enhancing (and sometimes sexual) stimulant without getting sucked into a 72 hour psychosis-inducing stimulant binge. He pre-measures all of the doses of a specific quantity, and spaces them out in pre-determined intervals. Though he sometimes gets REALLY frustrated when he starts to come down from a peak and still has 20 minutes before he's allowed to have his next booster... But he manages to wait... because he wants it to last (E.T. may have some OCD issues). Still, this desire is something he has NEVER felt with any drug.

It would be hypocritical of E.T. to tell people not to use MDPV. He still uses it from time to time and it can be a useful "tool" of sorts. But he strongly recommends that anyone using MDPV buy only small quantities at a time, use a proper 0.001g scale to measure doses, and NEVER do too much at once. The difference between 10 mg and 20 mg can be a LOT more than double, and the difference between a good peak and a BAD panic attack can be a matter of milligrams.

Be safe.

 

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I am surprised at how compulsive people MDPV is. SWIM can put it down at the end of the night if only because it starts to make SWIM feel like crap. I found 4mmc quite a bit more compulsive. SWIM still likes MDPV after 3+ years of using it regularly (once every week or two) but agrees its charms are limited on its own.
I do not feel that it or any other drug is evil BTW. The way people use it may be evil but MDPV is just MDPV and for some people who are not very compulsive it is relatively safe and effective as a stimulant and aphrodisiac. As a stimulant it is too distracting; once on board SWIM can only think about sex.

 

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in swims honest opinion after much research and plain abuse of this chemical. It can be insidiously addictive and habit formming, like herion, methamphtamine or crack, its a nasty dirty drug that leaves you feeling brain dead and gives strange cramps muscle spasms after extended binges. Aviod like the plague

 

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Swim's not felt right ever since that 3 day binge where he smoked 500mg, ever since then he's been waking up with pretty severe anxiety, stomach in knots and is also rather paranoid these days too, no enjoyment from life too, just blah all the time. Though he doesn't know if that binge was the cause or it's just PAWS, since he quit opiates a couple of months ago.
Even though, swim almost ordered a gram of the shit earlier, he's just glad he got delayed in paying for it, gave him time to think about what he was doing.