Thanks for your concern :thumbsup:. SWIM checked how much modafinil he hasd remaining, and in the 4 weeks since his first dose I took only 2 grams in total. The delayed onset for the rash is quite worrying. If I had been taking one full 200mg tablet every day I could have ended up taking over 6 grams in total, which surely would have been much worse.
Dermatologic effects seem to be practically non-existent so far as Modafinil goes, with less than 1% of patients reporting side effects of any kind (sweating and cold sores) in clinical trials. Possibly a rare allergic reaction to the drug? Seems unlikely, but it doesn't hurt to be sure. Recommend that You discusses the rash with his doctor, as if it is an allergic reaction to modafinil You should know so he can permanently discontinue use, and if it isn't an allergic reaction to the modafinil it could be something else entirely going undiagnosed (could be nothing, could be serious, but why take a chance?).
Swivy used to get this scripted to her, and she liked it okay. It worked, but she found she liked D-amphetamine combo salts a lot better. She'll post her modafinil experience here though, for the sake of adding to the thread. body weight & gender Swivy is 5'8" and 156 lbs and a female dose taken She took 2 200mg pills QD route of administration Oral Setting: in what environment it was taken. She took it every day, so mostly in a home environment while caring for her family and with her little sister on most days. Things were usually pretty chill most of the time. duration of main effects Lasted about 6 hrs, sometimes seemed a little bit sorter though. main effects Energy, focused mind, could concentrate better on tasks while multi-tasking esp. side effects Dull headache, euphoric at the beginning of her times using it, mild bruxism after effects None really. The come up and come down were very smooth, and she could sleep when she felt tired at night. rating of the experience A solid 7 of 10. Good, but nothing fantastic. addictive qualities / abuse potential Not really addictive for Swivy. She never really abused it either. Swivy found she was just fine using is as prescribed and went off of it after months of regular use with no withdrawal or discontinuation problems. any other valuable information Swivy found it to be a good tool for her to help her with her ADHD symptoms, although it wasn't strong enough. It is great for staying up all night without the jitters or the mental sloppiness.
SWIM Male Weight: 138lbs Dosage: 100mg then 200mg Provigil Route: Orally Day 1- SWIM never felt any particularly marked effects, in hindsight felt a placebo effect was present. I was sleep deprived on the day and at work. One positive effect was not feeling uncontrollable sleep at desk which has happened in past quite regularly, though was yawning as much as normal, which is quite a lot. Day 2 - Sleep deprived again at work. 14:35 after lunch feeling very strong urge to sleep, so much so that he had to go to sit down away from colleagues. Took 100mg at 14:35. Effects taking time to be felt 15:35 took another 100mg No longer feeling uncontrollable urge to go to sleep but not feeling that much of a positive effect. Overall okay to control negative effects of sleepiness etc but not producing that much of a marked positive effect. After reading about some of the side effects particularly those relating to skin he has decided to hold off his trial for now. trail added 6 Minutes and 18 Seconds later... Hi honourableone, what is the latest with this how did you skin issues progress. On the morning of the day after taking modafinil Provigil I got what looked like a zit on his chin which could happen normally but not that often. The way that the spot progressed was slightly different from his normal experience so it is not confirmed but possible that this was related to the modafinil. He is just in the process of weighing that up before deciding how to progress. Thanks
Nice to see someone else has taken what Swim considers to be a proper recreational dose. Anyway I am eager to share experiences, as he feels that his differs significantly from Swiy’s. I weigh 190lbs and is around 6ft tall. He can compare this experience with experience in several other stimulants including caffeine, mephedrone and speed. He has also taken Modafinil tablets to increase productivity, and when the need has called for it, miss nights of sleep; this however is his first proper recreational dose. I am in healthy physical condition and has suffered no heart problems in his life. I am on 200mg Modafinil tablets (Modalert Brand). I took 1000mg of Modafinil at midnight on Monday as well as 7 200mg re-doses at various points through Tuesday (Everything was taken orally). I was intending not to sleep at all and hopefully try to do some university work if the urge took him; I had my first lecture at 9 am. He was in his bedroom/ study area at his university accommodation, he was in the end room and the person next to him has insomnia and only sleeps an hour or 2 per night anyway, why that's important will come in later. Here's how it went; 12:00: I take 1000mg Modafinil 12.30: Swim's mouth is starting to feel very dry 12.40: I am noticing changes in his time perception, and a minute is starting to feel like it takes around about 5 minutes or so. (Swim thinks this may partly be down to the fact that he is doing this over his normal sleeping period, which seemed to add to the time perception change by making Swim feel like it was a different time of day all together as he was wide awake) 12.45- I am feeling slightly happier than usual but is noticing he is urinating frequently, 'pissing like a horse' as the saying goes, similar to the diuretic effect of alcohol, I also have a bizarre feeling of merging with bed he is lying on. 12.50- I am noticing some mild nausea, but not beyond what he can handle and he definitely won't throw up and miss this experiment. (Swiy's account didn't mention this, I am not sure if You left it out as inconsequential or if this drug didn't cause any nausea for him, I am rather prone to nausea when taking drugs orally so he prefers insufflating or smoking, neither really helpful in this case) 12.55- Swim notices that he is feeling rather hot, as if the room suddenly got warmer. 1.00- Swim notices that the onset phase is over, Modafinil has started to affect him noticeably and that he is now 'coming up'. Swim notices a marked mood lift and alertness increase as well as some effects similar to other stimulants, I find these effects rather mild and even considers dismissing them as placebo effects from what Swim expects stimulants to do, Swim considers taking more, but decides to leave it a while in case he is still coming up and he enjoys the feelings at their full level 1.05 Swim develops a minor sore throat (I remember this as a rare side effect from normal use of modafinil so assumes it is a product of how much he took and bad luck) 1.10- I am still finding effects very mild, takes 200mg more. I am noticing that he is having positive thoughts and feeling happy, but wouldn't quite call it euphoria. 1.15- I am experiencing the first of many desires to be highly sociable, Swim regrets choosing a countryside campus and a Monday night to take this drug. I am definitely very alert. I am concerned that may not be able to focus on work as mind is leaping from thought to thought at incredible speed. 1.20- Swim can hear his insomniac roommate still up, still with a desire for human contact, he has a strong temptation to go talk to her, decides against it as she probably resents not being able to sleep and would not appreciate Swim banging on her door at 1 in the morning. 1.25- I feel pronounced euphoria, the other effects are comparable to conventional party stimulants but are much milder and subtle, which again makes me want to add more, but he decides against it favour of allowing 1st re-dose to take effect first. {Swim here has thoughts related to using this as a party drug, as it's milder effects would mean less chance of detected but personal experience reminds Swim that alcohol and Modafinil don't make a good couple, and I go to student parties where alcohol consumption is pretty much compulsory} Swim’s throat is still mildly sore and I am having to cough to clear it of mucus occasionally. 1.30 I am going to try to do something productive but questioning if concentration on Swim's rather dull work is possible at the moment as Swim's mind is working like someone's with ADHD atm and is very easily distracted. If unable to concentrate, I have decided to go for a walk to search for a house party. Dry mouth still prominent, definitely a downside to experience, I am forcing himself to salivate and drinking lots of water. 1.35- I am opening lecture notes to revise, I am also fidgeting and restless. I am again craving social interaction and is very tempted to put phone back on normal and text people asking about having a party, however, I don't know anyone without lectures tomorrow. 1.40- Unable to sit and revise due to hyperactivity, however, writing this report as I am going along is remarkable easy to concentrate on as I am enjoying doing it. Swim might try to do an assignment instead. 1.45- I am finding doing anything productive, that he doesn't directly enjoy, to be nearly impossible, I am again craving social interaction and euphoria is running strong so I have decided to take that walk. 1.50- I take a few minutes to observe self in mirror for signs of obviousness, such as dilated pupils, in case he runs in to campus security or his insomniac roommate, both of whom would probably disapprove. (Swim's thought at this point he should point out that his roommate is so anti-drugs that she refuses to even take sleeping pills to combat her insomnia and that his university flatmates once staged an intervention when they found out I had smoked a little weed, so while this might seem unnecessary, Swim can't risk getting caught using drugs again). 1.55- Swim moved ridiculously quiet when leaving his flat because of much stronger than normal empathetic feelings towards roommates, Swim also notes that his behaviour may also be down to not wanting to raise any more suspicion about him than they already have but the 'not wanting to wake them up because he understood their need for sleep' excuse makes me feel much better about taking 10 times the recommended dose for a prescription stimulant, that he bought of the internet, at midnight and not bothering going to sleep despite having lectures the next day. 2.10- I found that the walk was pleasing to him while under the influence of Modafinil, but he also found no parties. He concluded with a sigh that Tuesday must be a day where everyone has lectures. He is also aware that these obscure details about his thoughts shouldn't really be in a drug report, but is finding it hard to stop waffling atm, maybe You will be able to read between the lines. I am concerned that walk may have cleared his head slightly, so re-doses with another 200mg tablet. Putting Swim on 1400mg of Modafinil 2.20- Swim again experiences a strong desire for human contact, and for a moment considers whether the nearby country village would have a night club, and deciding that that's a ridiculous idea, and that he is ridiculously high, I would like to take this moment to recommend to any Swiys who haven't done Modafinil to a gram or more recreationally before to do so with a friend, as you may well feel what I did. In Swim's opinion it won't be much of a true party drug due to, in Swim's digestive system at least, it producing severe nausea when mixed with alcohol. That is, however, Swim’s experience of alcohol mixed with 200-400mg of Modafinil, so he cannot say for certain whether it will produce a similar reaction with 1g or more, although he suspects that it will. I am forced to resort to talking to people on the internet, which is about as close to real human contact and jacking off to porn is to having sex. Still, it helps. 3.30- Second re-dose has fully kicked in now, with a marked increase in the strength of the effects, rather than a simple revival of the original effects as I would expect to see with a conventional stimulant. I take a second's pause to consider how long lasting Modafinil is, then takes a third re-dose to strengthen the effects further. I am also taking extraordinary steps to be quiet so he doesn't wake up roommates based on strong empathetic feelings for them. 3.35- I am experiencing a bizarre floating feeling as if being pulled upwards out of chair, time perception is still not normal, which isn't helping with desire to re-dose as it feels like hours since I took the last one. Also I am noticing some increased appreciation for music, not to the same level as with, for example, getting stoned, but there's definitely something. 4.00- Swim noticed slight impairment to short term memory, when trying once again to use this all-nighter productively and revise, but not a profound one, certainly not as bad as some of the short term memory loss Swim can experience on ridiculously high doses of mephedrone. Swim notices that all chance of being productive is out of the window as anything menial like revision is met with boredom and short term memory loss; whereas he doesn't trust himself to do any important work like assignments. Also, I feel that physical productivity is out because of Swim's excessive concern about waking other people up. I am still feeling no signs of a comedown from the original dose, and receiving some effects from the third re-dose which seems to have hit Swim fairly quickly, for what Modafinil usually takes. Swim hopes to have sobered up at least enough to re-dose without worry of going completely mental just before lectures. 5.30- I am experiencing a renewed bout of paranoia that he is keeping roommate awake, despite making minimal noise. Swim also notes that he doesn't feel a significant come down yet, a worrying thing considering that he has lectures in 2 and a half hours. 5.55- I am feeling much less high but is still fidgeting and feeling restless. 6.20- I am feeling the drugs wear off, and allows them to, as he will have to re-dose when it is time for lectures to prevent himself falling asleep. Swim intends to re-dose somewhere between 7 and 8 depending on the comedown. 8.00 – Swim rises and looks at the clock, feeling relatively sober, and deciding that lectures might as well be more fun, Swim quickly downs 3 tablets (600mg total). Swim then carried out his normal morning routine, shower- etc. After this, I feel rather bizarre, as he feels like he has slept, but knows he hasn’t. 8.45 – I am feeling nausea similar to after the first dose. 9.00- The nausea passes as Swim enters his 1st lecture feeling very alert; he notices that even this much modafinil is helpful in an environment where work is compulsory. 9.30 – I am beginning to notice minor visuals, keen to push them further, he decides to re-dose during the lecture’s break. 10.10 – Swim re-doses with 200mg of modafinil 11.00 – Swim now has a lab session, which suited the modafinil well as he was able to be productive in a more fun way as well as being able to talk to people freely. 11.10 – Swim starts receiving visuals, all of which are transparent and faint, comparable to looking at a bright light for a while then looking away, I am able to not react to them and be discovered. 13.00 – Swim’s lab session finishes and he has a lunch break, but finds modafinil to be an effective appetite suppressant, so is unable to eat much. 15.00 – Swim’s last lecture passed without event and Swim then simply allowed the drugs to wear off until he could sleep, which took till early morning. Summary I feel that this was overall a positive experience; he found it euphoric and entertaining. The only unpleasant side effects to the experience were the possibility of a dry mouth and a sore throat, both of which can be lessened if you have access to water. I would recommend using high doses of modafinil to others, but advises that you do it in groups and do not expect to be able to get a lot of work done as you could with a smaller amount of modafinil. Swim also notes that it was possible for him to be in this condition in an environment where if caught he would receive some form of punishment for it. I feel this adds to modafinil’s recreational value as it is not detectable by the public that you are under the influence of it.
I have become dependent, more or less, on the mind-boosting qualities of Modafinil in order to do high-level academic research. In the not-distant past, he has stayed up for days at a time with it. Strangely, SWIM now finds that Modafinil no longer has the mood-elevating properties for him that it once did. This holds true even after a break of two weeks. Why is this, SWIM wonders? How long should it take for his tolerance to go down? SWIM also finds that it may take him an entire week to recover from a heavy-dose usage of Modafinil, in which he stays up all night for consecutive nights or goes without sleep for long periods, and eats little or nothing. He has found a troubling side-effect in that his hands will become cold and clammy. Strangely enough, in his most recent experience, he felt what was something like frostbite on his toes, and he had periodical foot pain for days afterward. Yikes! Better help SWIM!
Hi everyone, Here is my experience taking provigil - Weight & gender: 60kg, female - Substance: generic Provigil - Dose: 200 mg pill / per day, take it daily - Route: Orally - On set: 4 hours with full stomatch - Duration of main effects: 6-10 hours, combined with drinking green tea - Main effects Energy, high concentration, no sleepy - Side effects Headache. It helps me to stay awake, not sleepy but it cannot remove the feeling of being tired due to sleeplessness. - Other valuable information: However, my life changed since I took that drug. Now I can work as much as I want and spent such little time to sleep!! Some one tell me generic provigil doesn't work as effectively as branded kind, Modalert. But I totally disagree!!! I try both generic and branded one. They works the same level!! But Branded drug has me pay much much more. Now I just use Generic provigil, and usually purchase at . I have to pay only 1/10 the price. :thumbsup: And do you notice that I took Provigil with Green tea? I think that increase the effect of that drug!!!
I use provigil pretty regularly. SWIM formerly used amphetamines (mostly adderall) heavily for many years, but does not use them any more. I find that as far as uppers go, provigil is not comparable to adderall -- not even in the same league. For SWIM, there is no "euphoria" with provigil, only a slight mood lift. It is good at what it is intended for -- keeping SWIM awake. Not necessarily even making SWIM focus -- just staying awake. I find that it peaks after about 30 min - 1 hour, depending on how full or empty SWIM's stomach is. When it kicks in, I feel slightly stimulated, not jittery like with caffeine, but a more "smooth" stimulation. I get a slight mood lift, maybe becomes a little more talkative. SWIM's hand movements may become quicker. I find that provigil lasts a pretty long time, at least 6-8 hours. The peak, though, only lasts about an hours or 2, though... but some effects can still be felt after 8 hours. Interestingly, I find that there is very little difference in effect based on dose. 100mg, 200mg, even 400mg, all feel about the same. SWIM read that provigil inhibits its own metabolism, kind of like codeine... this is probably why. Very few side effects... it doesn't even irritate SWIM's stomach like adderall or even caffeine. The only side effect is a slight headache, sometimes some muscle tension. Also, it makes me's urine smell strange... hard to describe... the odor is kind of like marijuana, almost... very very strange. It is definitely the provigil that does this, nothing else. SWIM's wife even notices the odor...
Dosage: 200mg, 200mg Route: oral Duration: 11 hours Body Weight: 76kg Gender: male Setting: Study room Main effects: wakefulness, alertness & focus. Side effects: Dry mouth. Passing of two stools, approximately a '5' on the bristol stool scale. Previous to this report, I had taken modafinil in the 400 to 600mg ranges, and had this same side effect only tending closer to a '7' on the scale. After effects: tiredness, but no more so than when I would do an all-nighter sans modafinil. Story: Conclusion: A good substance that has helped swim meet some deadlines. While he would like to come to the roots of the stool issue, he feels that so long as it is used sparingly and in situations where a well-equipped toilet is to hand, resultant harm is minimized. Abuse potential: personally, low, for the side effects.
To further the request someone made on my last comment, I would like to relay what my Psychiatrist, Dr. Funke, confided in me about another patient of his... "It's very curious what this young fellow gets up to.", the Doctor said over tea - as well as a working relationship we also harbor a long lasting friendship, you see - "He told me more about his recent exploits regarding modafinil. He preached its use, saying that it's certainly better than trying to work sans stimulants. He also prefers it to methylphenidate, as he felt to jittery after taking that. "He felt hungry throughout the night, although I would attribute this to his being awake longer and using up more energy, or not noticing the hunger while asleep at this stage. He says the hunger was nothing out of the ordinary, nor did he feel his appetite was being suppressed. At 9am, as he said, he fell asleep easily, and the following day he has a slight health concern. "At 5pm or so he felt a sharp jabbing pain just one inch below the left nipple. He is unsure if this is cause for concern, while it might be Pleurosis he is going to visit a different kind of doctor for a check up on that! "That night, he says went to sleep at 2am and woke, fully refreshed at 7am. Being the lazy tub he is however, he then relaxed in bed, knowing he was able to spend some extra time doing nothing because of the previous nights work on meeting his deadline!" I don't want to know what laws the Doctor is breaking in telling me this, but I appreciate his information.
Hi there Quick question I have noticed posters on here mention about 50 mg Modafinil I have used 100 mg Provigil but my local pharmacy can only get 100 mg This is a list of the possible branded names from Wikipedia Provigil Alertec Modavigil Modalert Modiodal Modafinilo Carim Which of these comes in 50mg? Thanks
As far as I'm aware this meds only come in 2 doses, 100 mgs and 200 mgs. What most people do (including myself) is break a 100mg tab in half, and there you have it, 50 mgs. Sparkles.:vibes: I am prescribed this medication, so no self incrimination involved.
Hi missparkles Thanks for that. Generally speaking in regards to cutting tablets in half. Is there anything to be aware of - eg: Need to use tablet quickly after cutting in half Best tool to cut in half with Different effect - Quicker absorption due to cut in half. I will give it a try just using a standard Stanley Snap Blade Knife Appreciate any guidance. Will post on my experiences of 50mg against 100mg
Actually it's not that technical, I break them in half by hand, just be aware that they can sometimes be a little "crumbly." The line (indentation) down the centre of the pills should help? Sparkles.:vibes:
Pill cutters can be gotten at nearly any pharmacy store and they are usually not too expensive. Good ones will have feature that ensure the pill is cut smoothly in half no matter the pill shape. Cutters with rubber along the sides will help to hold the pill in place for the cut much better than smooth plastic.
I am interested in hearing if anyone here has combined with Alcohol in a party scene. Surely mixing with alcohol in a more sensory stimulating environment should have some effects. Pretty much everyone above has only commented on what its like to take while sitting in a room during the day. A couple people hinted at what its like with alcohol but I am most curious what it would be like to take maybe 50m and go out to party with friends and plenty of drinking. Any insight?
I hate to rain on your parade but it just gives swim a mighty headache and fortifies his tolerance to alcohol. Also swim tried adrafinil with alcohol and it made the hangover measurably worse.
I don't think that modafinil and alcohol equals more fun - my experience was that it just keeps you awake. I'm not one for late nights anyway - but maybe it lets you stay out partying longer !
can I use modafinil with pentazocine lactate(IM/IV)...is it safe?? what should be the doses... ....I has high tolerance for almost everything and is regular on all types of benzoes and opiates.. has anyone tried it?? stimulant wid sedative?//