Drug information Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) Drug Info

Although I find MDPV OK in low doses.. seems I cannot keep redosing small doses throughout the day (10mg orally or so) or really take any more at once.

If I do i'll start to get really irritable, really overly sensitive to stimuli, to where i'll go grab some GHB to calm down and it even resists that somewhat.

I think generally the stuff is crap - there are MANY more possible better stimulants that can be made and be a lot better.

N-propyl-amphetamine isn't scheduled, although its just as good, could be made much easier/faster/cheaper than something like MDPV, just as good as amphetamine probably actually better (smoother on the body, longer lasting), SMIM heard 15mg of this = 10mg amphetamine, possibly somewhere between amph & meth in that its way smoother.

There's so many possibilities for other DA reuptake inhibitors too that would be easier to make, less likely to cause such the wide variety of effects between users MDPV seems to cause etc.

 

yes, but alas, there seems to be little demand for this sort of synth on production scale.

but as far as specificity of action, i have found little to rival MDPV in my limited experience w/DARI's - many more of which i would love to see and hear about.

 

The n-propyl would likely fall under the Analogue Act. Quite likely it would trigger the full scale implementation of same as speed is considered an utter menace to God-fearing Christian society. Look how fast Khat was outlawed. Images of heathen Allah-breathing Moslem speed-freaks ravaging little white girls! Oh My!

 

You dont have to be Muslum to ravage little girls

 

MDPV: 1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-(pyrrolidin-1-yl)-1-pentanone

so what does this mean for potency and activity? has anyone ever heard of this before? or even possibly tried it? :smoker: :joint:

 

MDPV, it is supposedly active at 5mg. It is more of a stimulant than an empathogen from what I've read. I too would be interested to see if anybody has tried it.

 

SWIG has tried this.
He went through 1/2 gram just smoking it.
The doses were never measured accurately, just match head sized bumps put into a tweak pipe.

For a short time SWIG felt pretty addicted to it. The high from smoking reminded him of another drug.

Orally he found it great for studying and concentrating in school.

 

How would You compare it to meth or speed?

 

MDPV does not have any euphoria what so ever.

It reminded SWIG of another drug, when smoked it gave a rush and then a little later SWIG was fiending for more.

SWIG doesnt like stimulants much but would prefer meth and amph over MDPV anyday.

 

Would You say it would be worth trying? From what I read it doesn't seem very exciting.

 

is there any reliable information on dosage?------:joint:

 

From the literature, there seems to be a ceiling at around 10mg. Any higher then this, e.g. 15mg, and the comedown appears really hellish and not worth it at all. So this one seems to be a case where less is distinctly better.

 

The interesting thing about 1-(3,4-methylenedioxy-phenyl)-2-pyrrolidin-1-yl-pentan-1-one is that is appears not to be covered by the UK's Misuse of Phenethylamines act. What's more, some vendors are starting to stock this compound.

I would be interested in obtaining it even though it seems as though it does not hold much scope for research.

 

As I mentioned in the other thread, 1-(3,4-methylenedioxy-phenyl)-2-pyrrolidin-1-yl-pentan-1-one appears to be one of the few PEAs not covered by the UK's Misuse of Phenethylamines act. But then, however draconian the Research Chemical laws are, khat is still perfectly legal here.

I would be interested in obtaining it even though it seems as though it does not hold much scope for research.

 

so long as by research you mean .... then yes... it has quite the scope for research...

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I would suggest that UK researchers stay away from thsi... dont buy it just because its what you can get... you still have benzodifurans and AMT and thats pretty good. on another thought why has this extension on the phenethylamine family been wasted with the ever so unmagical methylenedioxy substitution? it still enhanced the potency of the parent compound by 30-50x. ok think about this then... if we hold DOTFM-DFLY to be active at a likely 100ug then if you were to add the PV then it would be on the measure of 2-3 ug. DOTFM-PV-DFLY...

 

Someone on an other board (not SWIM) said it was their favourite drug of all time and that 30mg produced great euphoria, but please don't take that as safe dose! This could be complete nosense-- it's second-hand information. I would start with a much lower dose.

Others say they have enjoyed smoking it and that it has a brief rush, making it compulsive like crack (but presumably not as euphoric).

 

and now lets see how long that particular characteristic takes to get this compound scheduled around the world... and you thought the foxy boom got them angry... well... just you wait...

 

Despite the 3,4-methylenedioxy substitution it has negligable entactogenic activity as it's an almost exclusively dopamine reuptake inhibitor. In terms of effect, doses in the 2-5mg range produce a very clean CNS stimulation not unlike say methylphenidate or even 4-MAR. At that dose it has none of the distracting CNS properties that detract from amphetamines, but all of the benefits. Go over 10mg though and the excessive dopaminergic activity will make you crazy, coke style (I inadvertantly rectally administered 20mg about a year and a bit ago when I was intending only 5mg and required 5ml of GBL to stop me turning into a total fruit-loop - normally 1.5ml of GBL will knock me out).

The 2,5-dimethoxy-4-whatever substituted phenylpentanones will be devoid of any psychedelic activity

 

are you sure about that? if not psychedelic then what? cause their could be a whole shitload of different ones and they would all be very potent... 2,5-dimethoxy-4-propylthio-phenylpentanone 2,5-dimethoxy-4-trifluoromethyl-phenylpentanone 2,5-difuranyl-4-propyl-phenylpentanone etc... several of those seem to fit right in with extremely potent activity. is there any reason to believe that 2CPDflyPV for example would be without activity? actually i suppose that at this point it becomes easier to tinker with the naming here for simplicity. instead of 2CP-DFLY-PV or 2c-t-7-PV it be easier to open up a whole new nomenclature for these compounds (theoretically at this point). PK-T-7
PK-T-2
PK-P
PK-E
PK-B
PK-GN
PK-G5
PK-TFM-DFLY

for example... isnt there an alternate naming for the PV? like a PK... ill have to check i might use that instead...
this is a whole new world of psychedelic chemistrythat is yet to be really explored. i would let the MDPV frighten you off honetly. its a whole hell of alot more potent than MDMA ever could imagine. the methylenedioxy group is lacking of any really interesting things as far as psychedelic activity and thus it is hard to find interest in them(for most). it is still a very active drugs... just not necessarily the same as mdma more on the speedy rush side of it... there is no reason to believe that the pentanone-2C-B (PV-B/PK-B) would lack psychedelic activity... is there?

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edit: Pk is more catchy