Drug information Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) Drug Info

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  1. nanobrain

    nanobrain Platinum Member

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    renal issues may become noted, the cases are coming in. dont forget to hydrate your rats as they may forget.

    do not violate rules and do not abandon caution.

    stop using now if you can.
     
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    Nanobrain,

    Specifically what renal issues. Actually diagnosed renal issues, or subjective ones ? Does MDPV just stress kidneys by decreasing bloodflow to them, or does it do more permanent damage after the fact ?

    A brief subjective report finds MDPV to be a clean, short acting stimulant in league with BZP minus the body load. No strong euphoric component, and a strong drive to re-dose when vaporized. I have so far tried vaporizations from 1 - 2 mg. Combines well with kratom, each being additive to the other.

    Given that it seems to have no empathogenic or psychedelic effects, I feel it is limited in value unless one is a tweaker. No side effects of note at this level of dosage except sleep loss.

    Snapper
     
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  3. fastandbulbous

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    Basically, at low doses it's ideal for getting work done without the effects of fatigue denegrating perfotmance - be warned though, the 'more is better' approach with this drug is a sure-fire route to disaster. I've found that 2-3mg rectally or IM (yes aseptic technique followed closely) is good. Exceed 5mg and your performance will suffer badly.

    It's not a drug for your average speedfreak, as they seem unable to moderate intake. Basically if you find the occasional dose of methylphenidate to be of use, this will substitute admirably otherwise forget it
     
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    ^precisely put
     
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    Well, for what it's worth, I have heard oral and non-oral routes seem to have about an equal overall effect, though naturally the latter comes on much faster and is shorter acting; feels similar to ritalin, and provides little or no euphoria. Smoked doses give a rush, but not a euphoric rush, just a strong stimulant effect. MDPV has the portential, like most stimulants, to become habit forming. Though there is no empathogenic rush, it is tempting to redose on comedown (ie - methylone). I have heard only 1-3 mg doses have been used for assay so far due to this molecule's rep., but the dose will be stepped up a bit a few more times before posting a report.
    Note that I have heard MDPV mixes with cannabis (which seems to negate a lot of MDPVs effects) and alcohol with no added side effects, and actually compliments a 6mg dose of 5meomipt quite well on the MDPV comedown. Kratom combines well in low doses (2-4 mg), but can trigger anxiety and tachycardia at higher ones, so high doses may be unpleasant.
    Seems like MDPV would be a good combination with something else to minimize its negative effects and round out its effects.
    This report is a bit redundant, but given the scarcity of this compound, any info is useful.
    I have heard that the duration of MDPV is less than was reported. SWIM heard it only lasts about 6 hours, with a good 2 hours of peak effect. Maybe at higher doses duration will increase?
     
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    depending on the condition and family tradition of your rats metabolic predisposition and neurotransmitter level depletion, duration varies from zero time units to 12++ hours post-admin.
     
  7. Frogster

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    Please remember that the Dosage/Effect response of MDPV is not smooth but very drastic. Even slightly higher Doses can lead to the often mentioned bad side effects. Be very careful when You increases the dose, especially when You redoses.
     
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    no, there should be no given methods to test for this.

    SWIM's experiences with this drug are as follows: 5mg insufflated is about the equivelent to a half gram of cocaine, in feeling and duration, no numbness but the same or extremely similar core CNS stimulation and mental excitation occur. I find this in no way similar, or even comperable to any amphetamine I have yet tried.

    I have tried this compound approximately 5 times now and has never felt its effect longer than an hour and a half. SWIM's body must be cheating him.
     
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    Although it has the same mechanism of action as cocaine, I find that MDPV has only slight comparisons with cocaine. As well as turning me into a total arrogant, egotistical cunt, I've found that cocaine produces a very fuzzy, stoned type of intoxication where clear thinking is difficult; in contrast, lower doses of MDPV produces a clarity of thought far superior to just about every other stimulant I've ever tried. The only ones that have come close are fencamfamine & prolintane (although prolintane has only mild CNS locomotor stimulation in comparison with MDPV & fencamfamine) - from what I've read about it, the only one I'd expect to surpass MDPV for clarity is 4-methylaminorex
     
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    Thank you for the valuable information, fb. In the future please try to avoid self-incrimination. Kindly edit your post.
     
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    Re: MDPV: 1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-(pyrrolidin-1-yl)-1-pentanone

    For info try searchin MDPK is the same compound different name, swim just ordered it along with MET freebase & 2Ce
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    It mixes extremely well with LSD in small doses and does seem to boost the effect of the LSD. 4mg taken rectally with one good blotter caused time dilation of the order that I've very rarely had and made the blotter feel like twice the dose for about 4 hours.

    Again, as long as you don't go at it like your average speedfreak (and effectively poison your body), this is a very useful, extremely efficient, clear headed stimulant. I just hope it stays below the legal radar, but all it takes is one fuckwit... and we all know how that scenario goes
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    I am dying to try MDPV (being a major fan of dopamine reuptake inhibition). Sounds like it might be worth taking small doses along with other subbies as well, to add/enhance dopaminergic components of the high. In fact this latter use sounds like a better idea than trying to get high on MDPV alone, particularly if it really causes panic attacks that easily.

    He thinks he'll order some & report back later. Thanks for the reports everyone, looks like this one could be worthwhile (but only if extreme caution is used).

    P.S. I don't quite get the claims there's no euphoria though. If this chem affects dopamine, there has to be some euphoria. Also, I am wondering if anyone's tested its potential to improve sexual encounters/experiences.

    Edit -- never mind on the sexual thing, I saw that someone commented on a small injected dosage. SWIM can't wait to receive some of this stuff, his lab monkey's gonna go bananas! :D
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    I don't understand the 'no euphoria' either as it makes interesting tasks completely fascinating. It's also one of the best sexual stimulants you could wish for (again - not going over a certain limit is essential).

    Maybe I've just got a slightly offset neurochemistry!
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    and then, and then
    i really like to party
    but i find myself alone
    i think i m turning japanese, i think i'm turning japanese
    i really think so...
    and soon the other stims wont really do
    ya smoke some ice - and off to bed with you.

    oh, but the worst part of the fall
    is it stops working after all..

    watchout, Valera is a guiled beast
    your dopamine will be the least
    of losses that you may incur
    and please dont hit your boss, fer sure..
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    SWIM received his compound a few days early, and after mixing it down with water put a few mg in a bottle w/nasal atomizer & took a few toots.

    Result -- he noticed the effect quickly, but thinks it's a weird feeling rather than particularly pleasant. This isn't what he calls clear-headed, it seems more like a sort of stimulated mental fog to SWIM... like using too much caffeine. First impressions have been known to improve for him though with various substances, so this is still preliminary. He would swear it doesn't feel like any DA reuptake inhibitor he's familiar with, but this is just the initial effect.
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    What was SWIM's situation chemically speaking at the time of this experiment? I mean - did SWIM have anything else on board, or recently on board, that could interfere with the effects of this? I'm trying to get as many accounts of this material together as possible.
     
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    Re: Mdpv

    Simply put, yes... he used too much kratom earlier and was basically sick all day (not to mention, he used quite a lot of M1 yesterday). Don't put this one down as official, I will try it again another time when there are less mitigating factors.

    P.S. at dosages this low, there's also a chance of placebo covering at least some of the effects noticed. Particularly with just one usage.
     
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    Delete me.

    - Delete -
     
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    Mini experience report...

    Moved to a separate thread:

    https://drugs-forum.com/threads/24638

    P.S. Mods, please remove the following posts of mine in this thread (they're useless and just taking up space): 96, 97, 98, 102. Thanks.
     
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