hey all I am just wondering is there any possiblity of a bad trip on 2ce as he has herd its like a cross between MDMA and LSD he is planing on consumeing 15mg for his 1st time he was wondering weather it possiible to have a bad trip on the 2c's because the similer feeling of MDMA reported by users. if any swimmers have had bad experiances on any 2c's not just 2ce can someone pplease roprt the feeling,effects visuals as im realy intreeged and am planing on consuming some so i just want to know before so i can brace and prepare my self . many thanks if any replys stay safe
Re: bad trips on 2ce? LSD crossed with MDMA? I have taken 2CE over 15 times and has never ever felt anything like MDMA. 15mg can give a very powerful trip, whether good or bad. I have heard of people freaking out to the max on a 7mg dose (definitely 7mg as SWIM weighed himself). It may be worth taking a lower dose depending on how much experience You has with other hallucinogens. There is a big thread for 2CE experiences so next time please UTSE or at least look before you post. 2C-E Experiences
Re: bad trips on 2ce? I have gott experiance with mushrooms(liberty caps+Tuffles ) 20+, LSDx3, MDA x2 , MDMAx50+ , DXM+1, KETAMINE+30 has also done coke crack heroin ganja speed(paste not meth) he is comfertable tripin with most substances apart from mushrooms lately but he thinks thats because of the mood he was in when they were ingested does 15mg sound a good dose with that kind of experiance under his belt but never trying any of the 2c's
Re: bad trips on 2ce? I would compare 15mg of 2CE to a medium/high dose of mushrooms. Be warned though, 2CE has been known to send a lot of people onto their ass (i.e expecting a mild trip...) and it doesn't matter how experienced one is at other hallucinogens in that case.
Re: bad trips on 2ce? thanks for your help porchy I think that 10mg sounds like a good starter dose then see how he feels after that one more thing say if I was to take 10mg and it sent him to a nice place but wasnt strong enough for were he wanted to be would re-doseing another 2.5mg-3mg do much as I know 2ce is very dose sensetive ?
Re: bad trips on 2ce? To be honest I have never felt the urge to re-dose on 2CE so he cant really say exactly. The first has always been enough! The extra probably wont make it was strong as if it was all taken in one. Its up to You though to be honest, just take it as it comes . Happy tripping!!! :vibes:
Re: bad trips on 2ce? thanks a bunch for your help porchy much apreshiated and yeh hopefully happy triping
Re: bad trips on 2ce? yes, yes, yes. The turtles aardvark has had a number of very experienced friends suffer some very bad trips on 2c-e. Usually with higher doses (at/above 25mg). That said these where critters experienced with raw crystal LSD and experienced with trips in the multiple hundred "hit" range. It is a strange substance that does not sit well with some.
Re: bad trips on 2ce? thanks terrapinz flyer swims donkey consumed 15mg for their 1st time last night allong with 2 MDMA green recycle pils and the experiance was buetiful and enlighting but that might just be because iof the mdma but its a realy godd combo
Re: bad trips on 2ce? I say yes bad trips can happen, and with no warning. SWIM and about five others dropped some 2c-e the other night. I took 30mg, he gave his four experienced friends 20mg doses, and the newbie got 11mg. SWIWe all had a blast playin with glowsticks, talkin, jokin, and watching movies for the first 4 hours of the trip (newb included). Then newb got real quiet and would not answer questions after that. We thought he was just zoning on the visuals. Then for some unknown reason he snorted some eye drops (which was hilarious). Then he became real restless and wouldn't sit still, he kept sayin stuff like where am I, what day is it, whats goin on, etc... SWIWe answered as best as we could but he was in some kind of loop or something. He became violent demanding a ride home, only he wouldn't get in the car and started to fight SWIUs, then would want a ride home again, but still wouldn't get in the car, this went on for about an hour. He ended up gettin beat up, because he was tryin to hurt SWIUs and all SWIWe wanted to do was help. He got sent on his way confused as all hell. SWIWe called someone and had him picked up before the police found him. He was a mess, didn't even recognize his own family. point being even low doses of 2c-e in a safe situation can cause a really bad trip. Though it appears to be rare.
Re: bad trips on 2ce? I know experienced trippers who have tripped for years being caught out on 2c-e. Be careful, 2C-e can be very unforgiving. DO NOT TAKE LIGHTLY!
Re: bad trips on 2ce? wow... 2C-E causes people to get stuck in perceived loops of time and thought quite commonly from what I have heard anecdotally. Bizarre and violent/destructive behavior can occur as well. You'd better love your 2Cs or be ready to get owned with this stuff... it is very stong, alot stronger than say 2C-I or 2C-B. It is alot more of a hardcore psychedelic. Makes 2C-B look like a party drug by comparison. Visual activity is very generous as well.
Re: bad trips on 2ce? The old mans dog believes a good trip sitter is a nice thing to have while participating in this kind of activity
My monkey had a bad trip on 2ce. Henie experienced with alot of street drugs but was given 2ce in liquid form. Told to take 12ml but took closer to 20 not sure why? He was fine until about 2 hrs in. Upset stomach almost vomiting twice. Trip to him was bad until friend introduced him to music. He still felt like shit but was jiving to music like he was rolling. He kept mentioning how he just wanted to sleep. He did survive the trip with help by friends but doesn't want anymore 2ce. Pls becareful with these 2c drugs just start with small doses and enjoy the trip!
I found this note posted on my front door this morning: "I had a really good time with 2ce quite a few times before one night I took what I considered a fairly common dose, but it was unforgiving. I remember freaking out after my brother (who took a 22mg dose and has never taken it before) was given another dose from my friend after which I started freaking out thinking my friend was trying to kill us all and commit a mass suicide which seemed so believable at the time that I ended up calling the cops on him and myself twice. Next thing I remember was running through the streets as fast as I could while the red and blue lights of the police cars lit up the houses around and the sound of sirens was blasting through the street blocks. After running for like 10 minutes I arrived home to a dark apartment (the fuse blew and the switch was behind a door that was locked from my landlord's side) where I found my brother (who I thought was dead btw). At this point my brother started getting stuck in loops and was obviously peaking. A few times I had to physically prevent him from doing certain things such as going for a drive, which we didn't have. He kept repeatedly try to go for a drive not accepting the fact that we had no car. He insisted we did have one. He told me afterwards that he believed he could fly through universes that's why he said he kept trying to leave, hoping to find a universe in which we have a car or something. Anyway, it was a scary night. 2C-E is not a toy, for that look into 2C-I, that never took me to a bad place. Signed. Horse Joseph III son of Aegis, King of the Seven Seas and the Wordok Realm, possibly also son of Asterix, the animated movie hero" Nice note, I wonder if the horse in the name means he's a horse or it's just a name.
I would advise having benzos on hand if one wants to venture into the crazy world which is 2c-e land. Also I think most bad trips can be attributed to the ego resisting ego death and not allowing it to happen, so with that said try to always go with the flow of the trip. Personally 2c-e isn't SWIM's favorite psych and is very mentally intensive for SWIM but SWIM's knows some astronauts that can take 30 plus milligrams of the stuff and be very mentally clear. YMMV with this one it seems.
bad trips are possible with any hallucinogen, particularly if one does not enter the experience with a clear mind and respect for the substance's power. to be honest, sometimes a bad experience is the best experience possible, because it can be a humbling reminder of the frailty of the human psyche and a valuable reminder of the flaws we so easily overlook but should correct in order to live more fulfilling lives. hallucinogens have a way of reminding us of things we take for granted, of things we should try to fix about ourselves, and of the power of the universe. if you have any shortcomings or misconceptions in those areas, you are more prone to a bad trip. but if you are receptive to change and accept the lessons you are being shown, you might curtail the "bad" part of the tip and have an educational experience instead.
I do feel euphoria ecspecially after hour 4-5 but mdma with LSD is not a good review of this C1 controlled substance.Its quite hard To compare this substance To any other.Id say 20mgs is more like 4 tabs of quality LSD.Or maybe oral dmt its very uniqe its visuals are dramatic n can turn dark.But id say the best,thing is not To fight what this drug is trying To show you.I think of dmt,an 5-meo-dmt in the same fashion.be ready mentally for anything.And start low im sick of ppl that boast of 10hits of LSD easily,having To be babysat while i cant enjoy my experience.The only psyche dellicc experience that was close in intensity an visually was a3.5gram dose of p.azurians mushrooms.be safe kiddies
Ehm... personally, the only time I took it, I didn't enjoy it. But I kept myself from freaking out. However, I was in a VERY good place mentally when I took it, and was surprised to have any sort of bad trip at all. That in itself put me off it. If I'd had a bad trip on it when I still felt very depressed, or if I hadn't been in the mood to trip or in a bad house or something, I'd think, oh fair enough these things happen. But I honestly believe that if I'd taken 2C-I or even something like acid that night instead, I would've had a much better time. I only EVER trip if I'm really up for it, in a good state of mind, good set and setting, and I haven't had a bad trip on anything else since my first one... which wasn't my fault, to be honest.
