Drug information Methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV) Drug Info

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  1. dr.red.evil

    dr.red.evil Newbie

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    Please post info about MDPV here.


    Can anyone add information about:
    • names / synonyms
    • molecule
    • dose
    • duration
    • side effects
    • legal status
    • have there been any reported incidents with this compound?
    • since when has this research chemical been available?
    • stability of the molecule / compound
    Names: methylenedioxypyrovalerone (MDPV)
    1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-pyrrolidin-1-yl-pentan-1-one
    3,4-methylenedioxypyrovalerone

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    Experiences with MDPV should be discussed here: MDPV experiences

    The response of MDPV to field test reagents (e.g. Marquis reagent) can be found in a later post in this thread here.

    These documents about MDPV are in the file archive
    MDPV pics

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  2. radiometer

    radiometer bananadine addict Platinum Member & Advisor

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    It goes by the short name MDPV. I've heard that dosage ranges from
    about 5 -20mg or so, that it seems to be a strong mental stimulant, and
    mixed reviews of its enjoyability. Higher doses seem to produce worse
    side- and after-effects. It's not that well-explored.Edited by: radiometer
     
  3. William_Again

    William_Again Gold Member

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    Anyone got any additional info on MDPV, there aint much here (a couple
    small reports of usage) and I can't seem to find any info on it in
    Pihkal or on erowid. If there is info out there that I am missing,
    please point me in that direction.



    also what is the common name of this chem, I know around the web there
    are places that list it as
    1-(3,4-methylenedioxy-phenyl)-2-pyrollidin1-yl-pentan-1- one, but is
    there another name it goes by.
     
  4. William_Again

    William_Again Gold Member

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    Many thanks
     
  5. nanobrain

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    any more?
     
  6. RoboCop

    RoboCop Platinum Member & Advisor

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    Does anyone know if MDPK has dosages similiar to this? Are the two comparable? Or is the dosing on MDPK much higher?
     
  7. radiometer

    radiometer bananadine addict Platinum Member & Advisor

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    I'd guess they're comparable, seeing as they are the same thing. :)

    MDPK (Methylene Dioxy Pyrrolidin Ketone) is a name a guy on the
    Lycaeum gave to MDPV (Methylene Dioxy Pyrrolidin Valerophenone)
    because he didn't know it was already named.

    Both refer to the chemical 1-(3,4-methylenedioxy-phenyl)-2-pyrrolidin
    -1-yl-pentan-1-one.Edited by: radiometer
     
  8. radiometer

    radiometer bananadine addict Platinum Member & Advisor

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    There are threads on other forums with trip reports, here's a couple
    samples:

    I don't want to rip off too much content from other sites, so for more of
    the same, utfse on the appropriate boards.
     
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  9. William_Again

    William_Again Gold Member

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    This is a basic report on my first experience with MPDV (and by me/my/I
    I mean someone who isn't me, it is more convenient and quicker to type
    I/me/my instead of SWIM or the persons real name).



    Sorry but its a bit long.



    There isn't much know about this substance, but with the few reports
    out there a few things can be concluded: 10mg is enough to feel the
    effects, it is similar ritalin in effects, and doesn't have many
    noticable negative effects. It also should be noted that some info out
    suggests that it is similar to methylone (for obvious reasons) but i
    can't compare the two since I have yet to jump on the pricey methylone
    train.



    I measure out 14mg of MDPV and ingested it in a capsule with a glass of
    Diet Coke. Before I go further I would like to say that I have natural
    high tolerance to stims and even more so from substantial stim use. I
    had taken 75mg of ephedrine 36 hours before hand, but prior to that it
    had been 5 weeks since any ephedrine use and roughly 4 months since any
    amphetamine use (I am trying to stay away from stims). So that is why I
    chose a slightly higher starting dose.



    The first noticable effects came on at around 1 hour after ingesting
    the chem. I was out grocery shopping and I had the definte want to be
    in motion and moving, this was slight though. But even more so I felt
    extremely sociable and unerved by all the people in the stores, which
    is something that is a bit alien to me since I have quit a bit of
    social anxiety. At this point a bit of stomach cramping came on and
    lasted through the duration of the experience.



    After getting home (90 minutes after taking the chem) it was peaking.
    There was an even greater urge to keep moving, sitting still was a bit
    difficult and focusing was harder, I resorted to walking around my
    house, cleaning, smoking a few to many cigs. I felt no real euphoria,
    but a good feeling of well being. I also started to feel some slight
    but definite empathongenic feelings. I was alone, but I had an inner
    monologue and I kept thinking how I should contact a friend who I have
    lost touch with over the years and apologize for what has slowly been
    driving us further apart and try and form a bond again. This feeling
    was slight, but it was definately there. Also at this point I noticed a
    my heart rate was a bit faster and when ever I did anything physical
    (basic movement around the house) my heart rate would skyrocket and
    later come down after I sat still. I was also surprised by the complete
    lack of appetite/thirst. With ephedrine and adderall/ritalin eating is
    not necessary but it is more than possible, but this drug felt more
    like meth in that way cause eating/drinking was extremely uncomfortable
    and not wanted at all.



    The peak lated for about an hour at which point there was a noticable
    crash. It was nothing intense, but I could feel the drug wearing off.
    My want to be in motion subsided and focusing on a task became quite
    easier and more pronounced. I felt some slight tiredness in my body
    that faded quickly, but thats it, no headaches or body pain. At around
    the 3 1/2 hour mark I was back at base line.



    In conclusion I will say this, at a more moderate dose (10mg or less
    maybe) the physical effects would prolly be greatly reduced and the
    mental ones more pronounced making this a great alternative to modern
    ADD/ADHD meds . At the dose that I took, it really cant compare to good
    'ol meth/xtc but it prolly would be a decent substance to take
    when going out somewhere where a little lubrication and extra energy is
    needed and you don't want people to think that your on something. At a
    higher dose this could very well be a powerful short acting stimulant
    with some nice empathogenic overtones. It could also be a decent
    appetite supressant if used correctly. Finally I would like to
    say that one thing that is definately missing here in this substance is
    that forceful push to make you active. Like I said sitting still was
    not easy, but I had no need or want to go running, or dancing,
    etc...but it was missing that forceful push that I find in ephedrine
    and meth, but not in ritalin/adderall. Since this stuff is decently
    priced I wouldn't mind experimenting more on it in the future, but if
    it was any higher I advise anyone interested in it to look elsewhere
    since it is a bit subtle. I plan on doing some more research on this
    substance in the coming weeks and I will post them here.
     
  10. enquirewithin

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    Interesting report. Shame there is no euphoria, but well being sounds OK. I hope you post any further experiments.
     
  11. William_Again

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    I thought I would also add this: At the time that I wrote the report,
    it was roughly 5 hours after the experience ended, and like I state all
    noticable effects had gone...except for one which I had no clue about.
    Apparently even though the main effects of the substance had long
    subsided, I could not sleep that night at all, even with the help of
    some sleeping pills. Eventually I fell asleep after 22 hours of being
    up, and when I did I didn't experience any other kind of crash.



    Not sure if this is related to the experiement since I have the uncanny
    ability to stay awake for long periods of time with no help, but this
    is unusual. I'll try again and see what happens, if this odd ability
    continues I know I have found my new best friend, afterall who NEEDS
    sleep?


    Edited by: William_Again
     
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    I was told about Swim's experience with this compound. Swim's first and so far only experiment with MDPV was snorting about 10-15mgs (swims scale was not working very well). There was very little if any burn noticable. The effects however Swim noted as uninteresting, it was VERY subtle, slight nasea for about 5 minutes and slight stomach discomfort for the majority of the experience. I found it a little easier to socialize, he did not feel stimulated and had slight jaw tension. The effects where gone after about two hours, I do not think this is in any way recreational and thought that it was rather unpleasant. I have 475mgs left to experiment with but is not in any hurry to after his first test run.

    Higher doses would most likely be very uncomfortable.Edited by: RoboCop
     
  13. simon_marklar

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    i found that the effects were nice, wore off quickly and were replaced
    with indecisivness. it was hard to focus after about 2-3 hours.
    redosing fixed this, but only for a few hours.



    its short lived, has a tendancy to keep me awake and only stimulates for a short time.
     
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    threads merged
     
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    I have been planning on using this as a study aid.

    But would it really be useful for that purpose if it becomes hard to focus after just 2-3 hours?



    Does anyone have experience yet using this for studying?
     
  16. Jaw Clenching

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    Yeah, I've been taking small doses every morning before work to help me
    focus on my job instead of posting in internet drug forums.



    I'm planning on writing up a detailed report about my experiences with MDPV within the next couple days.



    For now I'll just say MDPV is worth it - price, dosage,
    positive/negative effects are all well above average compared to most
    drugs.
     
  17. William_Again

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    Well I did another experiment with MDPV and this time it was with 18mg
    (previousl it was 14mg, see my report above) the experience was a bit
    different. It came on and peak the same as the last time I did it but
    this time there were a few different things. While last time I was very
    physically and mentally stimulated, this time with the 18mg I was less
    physically stimulated and more mentally. Focusing was very easy and
    enjoyable (if ya know what I mean). The empathogenic qualities were the
    basically the same maybe a bit more heightend. The loss in appetite was
    still there, also there was no real crash or negative side effects, I
    was even more sociable, and it lasted a bit longer this time (around 5
    hours). It also still exhibited the lingering wide awake effects (I
    couldn't again all night even with more sleeping pills). This dose was
    a lot better.



    The real kicker was the visual effects. as it peaked I started to see
    obvious visual distortions, similar to glowing colored lines going
    across my entire line of sight (kinda like when you look at blinds that
    are half open and half closed and then you turn away, for a second you
    still see those glowing lines with the light coming through) and it
    lasted for about 4 hours. This was very obvious and not just my bad
    eyes, yet it wasn't swirling colors like with 2C-E.



    This stuff aint all that special, but its interesting. If I were the
    guy who made this stuff I would have patent it and tried selling it to
    some company as a new diet drug or add/adhd med cause its great for
    that (again while it isn't all that spectacular it does blow
    ritalin/adderal/concerta/etc out of the water)
     
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    I tried the MDPV this weekend.
    I began with 5 mg at 7:00 am of the morning the day after a day of crops of mushrooms and after 4 hours of sleep.
    H = 7:00 am half a joint measured in 5 mg the joint, after 10 minutes first sensations in the stomach and in the head, the ideas are clear, the fatigue disappeared.
    Till 11:00 am, I cannot stay in place and I do not stop speaking, fortunately my job allows it's to me. The time seem to pass fast. Pupil is dilated.
    H=11h00 just like that, i feels the fatigue of the previous day and of the short night.
    H=12h00 after a sandwich, I end the joint. And I meet myself in the previous state of stimulation, till 5:00 pm.
    H=19h00 14 mg of MDPV swallowed in a capsule.
    H=20h00 Onset. An important energy me typed, I can't stop speaking, impossible to stay in place, but no problem to realize works of precision, my ideas wandered but, effortlessly, i can find the thread of a chat or something that i put somewhere at random.
    H=22h30 46 mg of A.M.T
    H=23h00 Let's go to the party. 1 hour of road. A Calvary.
    H=0h00 Arrive at the party, nothing considerable in the point of seen visual or hearing.
    H=0h30 Onset of the A.M.T surpassing the effects of the MDPV.

    For me to whom the cocaine has the effect of the coffee, (I do not like stimulant as a rule) I liked well the effects of the MDPV. Rather festive for me taste. But to be surrounded with his friends it is festive!

    Sorry if you don't understant but i'm french and use a translator.


    You could find this post in one other forum i do it cause i found more eperience in this forum and i want to contribute too.
     
  19. William_Again

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    I have continued to experiement with MDPV, slowly up the dosage (26mg
    is the highest so far). Depending on the amount you take it gets you
    spun for 3-6 hours. It gives extra energy, either great concentration
    or completely scattered lost thoughts. It doesn't have the euphoria
    that is found in other stims, its has some very slight empathogenic
    qualities (this hasn't jumped or increased with the dosage) and besides
    that it keeps me wide awake for 24 hours with no problem. No real
    crash, but it obviously comes with the usual heavy sleep that comes
    after speeding. I like this stuff very much. Its better than
    adderal/ritalin/concerta/and possibly dex IMO.
     
  20. RoboCop

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    So william_again you do not find this hard on the body? Does taking a dose to get you "spun" come along with nasea or anyother uncomfortable side effects During the effects?

    What route of ingestion do you prefer insufflation or oral?