Side effects Physical Troubles from RC Use

remember to not self-incriminate here especially with RC's....go back and read the rules which can be found here https://drugs-forum.com/help/rules and dont use SWIM or something similar

 

The only 2C which has actually caused serious annoyance physically for Monkey is 2C-E. He remembers one occasion where the 2C-E was very weak, providing only the mildest of mild trips. However, the cramp in his calf was making him limp. He had all the symptoms of taking 2C-E except for the trip itself

 

I got weak cramps in hands, 48hours after using BZP/TFMPP/MeOPP in combination.
The effects weakens every day, but they still exists after 2 weeks.
At day the cramps doesnt bother him, but to fall asleep is more problematic.

 

Dosage for the above?

 

200 mg bzp, 50 tfmpp, 150 meopp and yes this is probably too much... the 48hours he wasnt able to close an eye.
but he telled me after 3-4weeks the cramps have completely gone and it is possible to sleep normally.

 

My hamster told me

 

I need to learn not to make an entire thread of his own when a suitable thread such as this is clearly visible.

SWIM detailed in his thread the effects mephedrone had on his rabbit. The rabbit's left foot still cannot be raised. However, either his symptoms are very, very slowly improving, or he's just getting used to walking around on a foot that can't feel anything, because he's found walking to be much easier, lately.

SWIM's rabbit's new wrinkle is the heart palpitations he gets any time he lays down to go to sleep. This is partially due to his fear that the mephedrone damaged other parts of his nervous system or even his cardiovascular system. His rabbit is aware that this would be a very rare condition indeed, but his leg neuropathy isn't exactly common either.

Question:
If someone drives him/herself to the ER, presenting with a rapid heartbeat and claiming to have weird pains, etc, and tells them he or she is experiencing an adverse reaction to an amphetamine analog he or she took days earlier, can the ER call the police and/or otherwise involve the patient with the law?

I know people who went to the hospital for heroin overdoses, and they weren't charged with anything or even questioned, AFASK, so I am guessing the police aren't usually involved?

 

well, doctor/patient confidentiality is supposed to protect one from legal ramifications of seeking medical help for drug related issues. if You can afford medical treatment, it sounds like it might be a good idea, given the apparent nerve damage and heart issues.

 

My rabbit's heart palpitations were, as he suspected (but had serious trouble convincing himself of), due to not having slept for approximately 60+ hours due to fears of progressive neurological damage. After forcing himself into a good night's sleep, which, he would like to add, was one of the most difficult leaps into the void he's ever taken, his heart palpitations have vanished.

No additional neurological issues have appeared, thus far. The foot drop issue is still present, and may be permanent, but he considers this a blessing in light of what could have happened.

If anyone feels it necessary to sample mephedrone, you have no excuse now should similar symptoms happen to you. My rabbit accepts responsibility for what happened; he took a chemical knowing that it's still completely unknown toxicity-wise. My rabbit would like to use this nasty episode in his life to contribute to the toxicity data:

Obviously, this compound may not be entirely safe. Use with extreme caution, if at all.

The only positive to come out of my rabbit's experience is that it has cured him completely of a nearly ten-year-long desire to experiment with chemicals. He realized he has far too much going for him to continue abusing his body in this way. It's sad that it took a neurological defect to convince him of this, but some of us aren't that bright, in some ways.

 

Elevated creatine kinase levels bordering on rhabdomyelysis after a three and a half day binge on MDPV.

Later tries with this chem were administered with v. heavy fluids. If there's one thing learned from all of this, it's the beauty of pissing clear.

 

MDPV is very dehydrating. SWIM drank tons of water before even starting and all through the experience. SWIM also weighed out a total amt for the night (usually 20-35 mg) and did not ever exceed this. Usually SWIM only redosed twice and stayed under that amount. MDPV is okay but not in excess or compulsively.

 

My Buddha statue told me after he took 2 1/2 hits of really good LSD he had developed HPPD. He said it does not really affect his day to day life, it's just slightly annoying sometimes. He sees tracers in a dark room (from glow sticks or the screen on he cell phone).

 

^Though interesting to know, I don't think LSD is considered a RC.

 

A friend of mine had an adverse reaction to an otherwise benign chemical recently. It was confirmed on two doses one being at 20mg the other being at 50mg both taken at orally and as one can imagine, the effects which went unnoticed completely at the 20mg dose intensified to a paralyzing state at the higher dose. The friend is fine now and I'll try to have him post more info on things but I figured some information would be better off incomplete earlier, rather than waiting around and letting it fall to the backburner.

2C-T-2 was the chemical in question and it started off with him saying to my raver friend at the club that they were at "My legs feel funny. Really stiff." It was thought that the effects effects would have reached their peak by that point so things were going to be fine for him but then my raver friend didn't run into him for the rest of the night. The next day my raver friend was finally bale to charge his phone that died right after the party had ended and he learned that his friend's state had devolved drastically since then. He was found by another raver friend of mine and taken care of because he was completely unable to be responsible for himself and was given clonazepam and hydrocodone to ease his symptoms.

To best way I could describe it based on the info given to me would be a muscular variation of the condition known as Atrial Fibrillation. Atrial fibrillation is when the heart beats out of rhythm so that the beats interfere with each other eventually causing the heart to stop. His condition was such that his muscles were clenching so much that he was just laying on the ground and couldn't do anything for himself.

This was an isolated occurrence given the batch and chemical and most assuredly has something to do with the personal body chemistry. The only noticeable sign that could be used as a warning for future researchers is that know your own body. If you are normally very sensitive to the effects of psychedelics and other research chemicals, be very aware of anything physical that strays from the normal set of effects for the chemical. Do the research beforehand always.

 

My raver friend has personally tolerated after working up from lower doses up to 60mg orally and has yet notice any signs of increased negative effects of any sort or anything that has lasted out of the ordinary after the trip. Other friends have also reached the 40mg mark without issue, one taking 35 mg and having a very light easy sustainable trip.

With the user in question my raver friend wasn't able to notice anything out of the normal when the first 20mg dose was taken a few weeks ago as it's common practice to not allow anyone at all, regardless of their experience with psychedelics in general to take more than 20 the first time. Usually it's limited at 10-15 mg but the user had already taken 2C-T-2 at a time prior to him running into my raver friend.

 

A highly evolved simian creature told SWIShiva that their recent trial of 28 mg 2C-B resulted in a ridiculous body load, persistent mild headache, body temperature fluctuations, and the most painful paresthesia ever.

This ape has gotten pretty bad paresthesia several different times with LSD alone; though, because paresthesia occurs in less than 50% of their LSD experiences, Ape cannot discern if it is psychological or neurological and whether it is the elicitation of symptoms of a pre-existing condition or if it is entirely due to the drug(s).

Other side effects:

2C-B-FLY, 10, 15, 20 mg doses: coldness, tingling in the extremities, poor peripheral circulation, minor heart palpitations, funny headache-y sensation

2C-E, 10, 12, 14, 16 mg: minor GI upset, light tension headache around the 9th or 10th hour, minor day-after lethargy

2C-I 15, 20 mg: mild bruxism, throat pain, possibly associated with the thymus or thyroid glands, iodine containing compounds to be avoided by this ape. They won't be surprised if they get thyroid cancer one day because of this wretched drug and/or its wretched adulterants.

Methylone, 200 mg: Few side effects aside from the typical MDMA-esque jaw clenching, low fever, dehydration, etc. Relatively well tolerated

5-MeO-MiPT, 6, 8 mg: Fever, perspiration, dry mouth, inability to focus eyes, trembling, tachycardia.

4-AcO-MiPT, 20 mg: minor GI upset, otherwise well tolerated

DPT, unknown dose, insufflated: very slight tension headache, jaw tension, otherwise well tolerated

5-MeO-DiPT, unknown, but low, dose: no apparent side effects

Mephedrone, 200 mg: tachycardia, dehydration, headache, trembling, tingling/numbness in the extremities, pin prick pain in the top of the foot, peripheral circulation problems...one of the nastier side effects profiles. Ape would stick to methylone or MDMA

Ape is defined as male, 17-19 years old, 62-65 kg

 

My goldfish has only tried DOI (though he will be trying 2C-I soon) and had a very fast heart rate and went to the bathroom to try to either shit or piss every 10 minutes or so. It could just be that my goldfish ingested somewhere around 7-8mg, however.

 

So after trying to push his limits and consuming the highest dose he has ever had with2c-e, 45mg, Red Rock experienced during the trip numbness in his fingers which went away later the next morning. The next day, he also experienced a massive headache which still hasn't quite gone away yet (gotten better as the day as gone on) and massive stomach cramps or pains (no gas) but just pains. Slightly over 24 hours since he first entered the trip, he is starting to feel much better.