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Discussion in 'Research Chemicals' started by NoWorldOrder, Feb 19, 2005.

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  1. Jul 4, 2009 #81
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  2. Jul 12, 2009 #82
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    someone mentioned distilling welbutrin...could you elaborate or point to for info on doing such a thing?
     
  3. Jul 14, 2009 #83
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    Hi people, first post here.
    I tried the `dusted` bath salts at the weekend and was VERY surprised how good it was. A gram over a few hours and I said there was no sore nose of crap feeling in the morning.
    was swims first legal and might try the `charge+` although expensive at xxxx a gram:thumbsdown:
     
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  4. Oct 5, 2009 #84
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  5. Oct 11, 2009 #85
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    This is an honest SWIM comment, nothing I can attest to personally.
    Taking a high dose of Bupropion daily (~300mg) will increase the impact of Ritalin when used, as it helps to prevent the re-absorption of the chemicals Ritalin uses to create its effect.

    Ritalin is very close to coke in high enough doses, as SWIM personally says he can attest to. At the same time, it's more difficult and/or expensive (depending on legal vs street purchase) to get enough of it to make it a viable substitute for coke.This is where my friend says the Bupropion helped increase the effectiveness. Mind you, it needs to build in your system and he said it single-dosing it with the Ritalin won't do anything.

    So, that's about it in terms of coming close to prescription subs.
     
  6. Nov 11, 2009 #86
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    snorting propylhexadrine is a very bad idea.
    IVing it is downright deadly.

    VERY vasoconstricting!

    Azog1 added 17 Minutes and 31 Seconds later...

    SWIM sniffed yohimbe hcl once...yuk!

    palpitation city!

    extreme anxiety as well.

    I do like a little (10mg or so) orally when he/she is getting amorous.
    he/she has no probs w/o it but,
    can plow like a rutting bull on it! intense!
    doc can Rx it for impotence but in the states it's OTC now.
    good for the gals as well.

    partner has to like sweat dripping all over them as it really makes him/her perspire. "ow! you're making my eyes sting!" lol.

    combines nicely w/ damiana.
    the yohimbe gets the bod into it and the damiana gets the mind into it.
    add a little cannabis for the time warping and it'll be a memorable nite.
    a little methylone wouldn't hurt either.

    sex magic! :p
     
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  7. Nov 11, 2009 #87
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    when I was low back in the day he would crush up methylphenidate pills to substitute. he liked the effects esp. with one or two beer, no more though. even though it was fillery and didnt give good numb's it did the trick. I has heard of vitamin b12 being insnufflated with some stimulating effects. then again You could search, bath salts, or legal snuffs in a million places and find charge +, ivory wave, vinilla sky, raz, snowblow ect ect.... charge + has been said to be pretty good.... but its impossible to find a substitute with the standards some people on DF have. ivory wave and vanilla sky are reported as potentially very risky.

    caffine really does share a similar effect profile with cocaine and i think maybe pure caffine would be the best legal substitute. then methylphenidate which is controlled, then RC's which are in shades of grey and can be quite risky.
     
  8. Nov 20, 2009 #88
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    Best replacement for Cocaine

    Hello,

    I have been looking all summer for a suitable replacement for cocaine. The reason a replacement is wanted is mainly due to cost, to break an addiction and to stop being ripped off. I have tried Mephedrone, Charge +, Sida Cordifolia, Amphetamine and many others at different times in his life. This may be the holly grail, but does anyone else have a good experience with a drug that is reasonably short lasting 2 - 4 hours, gives euphoria and energy, not much comedown, but on which you can still function.
     
  9. Nov 20, 2009 #89
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    Re: Best replacement for Cocaine

    I have never tried it, but they did hear that Mephedrone may be quite similar to Coke. Check out the Research Chemicals sub-forum on this site for more info.

    Peter_Stringfellow added 9 Minutes and 1 Seconds later...

    Whoops! SWIM just realised that You already tried Mephedrone.

    In that case I know of nothing else, maybe try some of the other Research Chems, like MDBD, MDPV and Methylone??

    That said, I did think they heard that Mephedrone was the most like Coke. Did You (someone who isn't you) not think the Mephedrone buzz was like Coke? IF not, what was wrong with it?
     
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  10. Nov 22, 2009 #90
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    Re: Best replacement for Cocaine

    SWIM highly rates MDPV - once You gets the dosing spot on...

    Very clean, the DA rush is awesome. Read big boost in ego, sex drive and alertness.....

    I did find the need for 10-20mg beta blocker (propanolol) concurrently though, to ease the rapd hr and panic attacks.....
     
  11. Nov 29, 2009 #91
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    Re: Best replacement for Cocaine

    swim's heard AFOAF crush and sniff ephedrine tablets. he/she thought what the hell my coke cut with this. 1 10mg tab 2 fine rails. nice buzz similer to coke, could be lil harsh on the nose after couple lines.

    you could tell your friend to try this, really cheap widely available legal in most places if not all
     
  12. Dec 2, 2009 #92
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    Re: Best replacement for Cocaine

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  13. Dec 8, 2009 #93
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    Re: Best replacement for Cocaine

    I would highly recommend MDPV as a replacement to cocaine. From SWIM and a few close SWIMmers experience, they all a great time, and SWIM personally now prefers MDPV over cocaine. Two Hours of intense, euphoric rush followed by hightenes alertness and sense of pleasure. Sex is... woah. all that can be said. Hope this helps.

    ~Nimbus
     
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  15. Dec 11, 2009 #95
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    Wellbutrin, at least in SWIM's opinion, has little effect for the painful burning and terrible tasting drip that results. In SWIM's experience, it created a slight speed rush, followed by an almost detached feeling, which is hard to explain, but is best described as I didn't giwe a fuck, and knew that I should, but simply didn't. MDPV would be SWIM's and a few close SWIMmer's personal recomendation, followed by Charge +. Also, with a bit of research, these can be acquired without too much difficulty.
     
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  17. Mar 5, 2011 #97
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    My pet gremlin, Bob, took quite a liking to cocaine in the past. Out of every drug or substance GremBob tried, coke seemed to be the only one that was morish to him (and GremBob has tried most topical, common substances, especially stimulants.)

    Now days GremBob has regular random urinalysis so currently he has gone years without the use of cocaine. He has tired many suggested alternatives, mostly being research chemicals. MDPV does not give him nearly enough euphoria as coke. While mephedrone is close, it leaves him feeling pleasantly intoxicated and unable to perform regular, daily tasks. Adderal might be a good alternative for some but not for GremBob since he has been taking it daily since he was a little gremlin. List of other RC's and even over the counter substances is long, with nothing else worth mentioning except one. Not mentioning a brand name, so lets just call it Q bath salt.

    GremBob is aware of obvious dangers because of the questionable contents and manufactoring. Besides that, the only problem I have surprisingly observed with this alternative is that he seems to find the bath salt even more addictive than the past coke habit. IMO The bath salt quite obviously contains an amount of MDPV. Anyone experienced with that chemical can tell by the bath salts apperance and part of it's effect. I recently had to take GremBob's bathsalt away from him in fear of embrassment that my pet could be an addict to a bath salt out of all things. Besides a day of fiending, no withdrawl was observed and my pet seems fine.

    So as a comparable alternative, this bath salt seemed to work, but not suggestable because of it's morish nature and it's much abundant availablity.
     
  18. Mar 6, 2011 #98
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    If Afoaf recalls correctly, the prescription stimulant "Concerta" gave him some effects that felt pretty similar (and longer lasting) than cocaine.
     
  19. Mar 7, 2011 #99
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    If you extract, freebase & smoke ritalin, it's actually OK (for people who like cocaine). A few Research Chemical companies were selling dimethocaine but the stuff isn't as potent as cocaine & just as bad for the heart. I believe one batch of desamino dimethocaine made it to market. This would presumably be safer, but I imagine it wouldn't be a very cheap alternative.

    I'm pretty sure that dimethocaine is a good lead compound, but it would take a lot of $ to design & make a set of different ones to find the optimal material. I would guess that a 3,4 dihalo would be the best (it works for cocaine & analogs). What is nice is that the different halogens tune the specific binding ratios. There is a Wiki entry on Dichloropane which gives just some of them.
     
  20. May 7, 2011 #100
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    Hello,

    has anyone any informations about Dichloropane ??? I hope so ...

    I ordered a 100mg Sample of it ...
     
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