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Experiences Evidence "benzo fury" is a scam.

Discussion in 'Branded RCs.' started by Revolvingdoo, Aug 3, 2010.

  1. Aug 3, 2010 #1
    Revolvingdoo

    Revolvingdoo Silver Member

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    I have consumed the "official benzo fury pellets" from two of the "official vendors" and they are 2-AI. I will happily PM a mod with the name of the vendors in question. Reagent test confirms this, yes they do get You high, but a massive difference is noted between this and their origional sample. ALSO I will upload his reagent tests when he finds his camera, WHICH he is looking for ASAP.
     
  2. Aug 3, 2010 #2
    Phenoxide

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    The reagent tests would definitely be of interest so please do upload them to the Drugs-Forum image gallery when possible. I am curious as to how You has made such a concrete assignment based on pill testing reagents though. It'd be useful if You explains what about the test results lead them to believe it does not contain 6-APB or 6-ADPB, and even more importantly how they've reached the definitive conclusion that it is 2-aminoindane.
     
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    Revolvingdoo

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    I was perhaps hasty in saying it was definative, however he is attempting to upload the images now if swims computer will recognise the new hardware that had been plugged into it several times.

    I am just very disillisioned by the fact that the reagent test results and the subjective effects differ so much from the "samples" given out.

    my origional results for the 6-APB or APDB whichever it is suspected to be, were very similar to his MDA results, almost identical infact. Which Obviously leads swim into a moderate amount of scepticism.

    SWIM only got this off said official vendors, which are claiming are expericing delays again, through virutal harassment. It is conciveable they sent swim 2-ai to shut him up. So these claims must be taken with a pinch of salt, however this is just indended as a minor alert at best.
     
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    here's swim's from left to right marquis, mecke & mandelin tests of the new pellets.

    done twice with different batches of stuff as swim realised the attachments I had put in the other thread are with the first batch he had so to keep it consistant he used them both, top/left is the new stuff, bottom/right is the old stuff.

    the colours appear to swim to be in keeping with what one would expect. left a little while longer the marquis is now considerably purpler than in the photo.
     

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    Phenoxide

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    Looks pretty consistent. Just to clarify is the order Marquis, Mecke, Mandelin from left to right?
     
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    yeah that's correct, as force of habit I go Marquis, Mecke, Mandelin. I'll edit to clarify anyway.
     
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    Zarbid

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    For anyone that doesn't use or has never seen a testing kit - like SWIM for example :s. What do those results mean? Is it "Benzo Fury" or not?

    Peace and Love
     
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    Phenoxide

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    No analytical test will ever identify a substance as "Benzo Fury" because this is a brand name, not a chemical. "Benzo Fury" could be 6-APB, 6-APDB, or something else entirely, depending on who is making and marketing it. It may also be a mixture of multiple substances, active or otherwise.

    Pill testing reagents cannot be used to positively identify a substance. They can only be used to rule out certain possibilities. For example, mephedrone tends to turn slightly yellow or give no color change at all to Marquis reagent. We could therefore rule out mephedrone on the basis that Marquis turned red/purple in the presence of this substance. The color change of these particular reagents (Marquis, Mecke, Mandelin) also doesn't reveal anything specific about the chemical structure; the color changes are not easily predicted.

    We have no 'expected' results for pure 6-APB or 6-APDB, so we cannot say whether these results are consistent with the product containing either of these. Tests like this for novel Research Chemicals simply act as a reference point. If someone tests another batch and gets inconsistent results then that indicates multiple products are in distribution. We won't know for sure what any of these product(s) might be until they undergo a proper laboratory analysis.
     
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    Zarbid

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    That is one of the best answers to any question I have ever asked - Thank you!
     
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    On top of all the other major contributions he/she makes.

    My Cheshire Cat was thinking of ordering some of this tonight.

    He also read that samples that vendors send out at first aren't as good. This may very well not be the case in all circumstances, but he's read of it happening.

    Also, how is getting free samples a scam if You never buys the product in the long run.;)
     
  11. Mar 29, 2011 #11
    Felix Machina

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    It's a scam if the 'product' is an unidentifiable random chemical You is chucking back that either doesn't work or has horrible unexpected effects - who wants to do that.
     
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