For prolonging and enhancing the Euphoric, Empathetic MDMA like qualities of Methylone, I has heard some reports of combining it with 2C-B, 5-Meo-Dipt, and other phenethylamines and tryptamines. He is particularly interested in the combination of Methylone and 2C-B, but would love to hear feedback from anyone with experience with other Methylone + Phenethylamine / Tryptamine Combos. He would like to know what combos people have used with success as well as failure so he knows what to avoid as well as what works. But is especially interested in what works He thanks everyone kindly in advance !!!
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect You might find this thread helpful: https://drugs-forum.com/threads/35624
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect No doubt there already exist many threads on this topic. I have not had much success combining methylone with psychedelics, and fails to see how this could lead to an experience mimicking MDMA.
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect More like a strain on the heart and heavy anxiety - at least with phenethylamines. At least that is what Bongo told me. And he's a very cautious ape regards dosage.
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect SWIM's lab weasels find that methylone (~150mg), 5meoMIPT (~5-8 mg) and a little MDPV (~5mg) have a very euphoric peak with most MDMA qualities except for more stimulation.. SWIM's weasels go on to say that the MDPV is not necessary but does contribute something, and that 5meoDIPT would work as well, though SWIM's weasels likes 5meoMIPT better.. SWIM lab weasels agree with bongo that PEA combos tend to be too speedy... I think methylone and low dose AMT would hypothetically be interesting as well if timed right and tested at lower doses for negative interactions. SWIM's weasels have always found AMT to be empathogenic, esp at lower doses. I recommend none of these since all these combos can be hazardous...SWIM's weasels are a little out of control sometimes...
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect My budgerigar used has enjoyed mixing 2C-B, 2C-C and 2C-I with methylone in the past, but the timing and dosing is very tricky. He wouldn't really recommend it, however. Coming up on a psychedelic whilst coming down from methylone (which happens so fast) could be very uncomfortable. Such a combination is nothing like MDMA at all-- more like mixing stimulants with psychedelics. Mixing M1 with "Foxy Methoxy" put him in a sort of twisted purgatory for a couple of hours. Possibly the best way to take that kind of combination is to wait until the peak of the psychedelic is over, then take methylone (certainly not the other way round). The more someone takes methylone, the more the anxiety it can produce comes out. Why are there so may threads about this and that being like MDMA? There are so many other experiences out there which are as good if not better!
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect Extreme caution would be advised - if not an absolute veto - with the a-MT idea. a-Methyltryptamine is an MAOI. What that would do with methylone is unknown and I would not suggest anyone be the first to find out what a CNS-stimulant ketone and an MAOI would do.
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect SWIM's weasels have that combo on the roster already but will not get to it for a while as said weasels do not have a lot of free time away from their Marshall Farms stud duties and it may take a while. As usual, the weasels will work up from a low dose of both, but given 15mg of AMT's lack of interaction with~15mg MDPV and a 25gm rail of methylone (the latter of which did nothing, as predicted), SWIM's weasels are not overly concerned. However, Nag's cautions are heeded as always. The weasels have their new crash helmets and goggles ready...
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect For those who asking why I would not just take MDMA to get MDMA's effects is because MDMA is very scarce around where he lives, and when it does come around, it is always full of meth, and ketamine, ephedrine, and whatever other junk pill makers find up their asses these days. He has not had a good MDMA pill since 2003. And has only encountered pure powder twice in his life. ( it is never around ) The last pressed pill swim ate had 1 part MDA, 2 parts meth, and 2.5 parts ketamine. I took two and spent the night in a K-hole instead of rolling with a very close friend like he planned. Now he is sick of it and wants to find something that works. And, being as he can get actually get methylone very cheaply believe it or not, he would like to expirement with this chem and try to find an enjoyable experience like mdma as that is swims most favorite experience ever..
METHYLONE TAKEN WITH 2C-B, OR 5-MEO-DIPT ??? Which would you choose & why ??? Ok, I have narrowed it down and it looks like I will most likely get the effects he is seeking ( comfortable but strong euphoria smilar to MDXX ) from either : 1 - Methylone and a low dose of 2C-B ( 2c-i is too stimulating for swim ) or 2 - Methylone and a low dose of 5-Meo-Dipt or 3 - Methylone and a low dose combo of BOTH 2C-B and 5-Meo-Dipt ANYONE wth any experience, feedback or suggestions please post to help swim find which path to take.
Re: METHYLONE TAKEN WITH 2C-B, OR 5-MEO-DIPT ??? Which would you choose & why ??? I hasn't tried 5-meo-dipt, but has researched methylone in combination with both 2c-i & 2c-b. they both go very nicely together, it's hard to say which I would choose over the other. swim also finds 2c-i stimulating, but when swim combined it with methylone, he says he kept his dose quite low (8-10mg of 2c-i, followed by 125-150mg M1 about 1 hour or so later) and the stimulation was alot more manageable. I would keep his 2c-b and use that on it's own, as he finds 2c-b trips quite similar to mdma already - and would recommend that you try researching 2c-i with methylone.
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect Can I ask how SWIc knows that these three chemicals were in his pills? It seems one would need a lab.
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect ecstasydata.org had them posted on their site from swims area, and I used a tester to confirm the presence of the other chems ( sadly they were tested & looked up AFTER the bad experience ) you can see it here, http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=1554 I was a bit off on the ingredients, but this is the pill. It felt more like 1 part mdxx 2 parts meth and 3-5 parts ketamine, YUCK !!!
Re: METHYLONE TAKEN WITH 2C-B, OR 5-MEO-DIPT ??? Which would you choose & why ??? has your swim considered 4-aco-dmt? I has researched this one 4 times now, and said it is remarkable how similar to a good mdma roll it is (at around 14-16mg). I say he doesn't even enjoy mushrooms all that much, and wasn't expecting such things from 4-aco-dmt. the body high is similar, actually better than mdma - there is euphoria, and the visuals are like beautiful jewels. possibly missing some of the empathy that mdma has. your I should read some trip reports on it - others have also remarked that the feeling is similar to e.
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect Don't know why people do that!
Re: METHYLONE TAKEN WITH 2C-B, OR 5-MEO-DIPT ??? Which would you choose & why ??? ya 2c-i is a little too stimulating for swim, he prefers 2c-b on the phenethylamine side of the spectrum and 5-meo-dipt on the tryptamine side of the spectrum I am wondering about TFMPP to add more serotonin function to the experience like in TFMPP + BZP combos. What does You think about this possablity ??? I know some monkeys find Piperazines to be too toxic feeling. Swim, while they are not his first choice, does'nt mind piperazines that much, but finds methylone much better in every aspect than BZP. Anyone else ???
Re: METHYLONE TAKEN WITH 2C-B, OR 5-MEO-DIPT ??? Which would you choose & why ??? This is likely: methylone+piperazine=headache.
Re: Best METHYLONE + PHENETHYLAMINE or TRYPTAMINE Combo for enhanced MDMA-like effect Time for the rodeo hamsters to figure out that black pepper thing ... (big smile)
